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Traveling to Colorado with rifle and magazines?
I am going to be visiting Colorado and bringing an AR and magazines. The mags are Standard capacity (30) rounds. What are the laws regarding this? Will I get arrested with them? It is really hard to find the laws concerning this.Thanks for any help.
Someone can correct me if I am wrong. The law applies to those who are residence of Colorado. If you are just visiting you are fine.Originally Posted by Carolinalogcrafter
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles. --Jeff Cooper"
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WRONG. It provides no safe passage clause, and does not specify "residents" in the bill. It does allow you to have them if you had possession of the magazines before July 1 2013 AND maintained continuous possession since then (e.g. didn't loan them to someone). It has no text that requires you to have possession of them in Colorado prior to that date, just simply possession. That said, HB13-1224 is one of the worst written pieces of legislature in the land. It is overly broad, and rushed to say the least. So, standard disclaimer applies, I am not a Lawyer, and you should research yourself or seek legal advice.
If you want to read the final law, it is at the link below:
http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/cli...E/1224_enr.pdf
--J
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"Praise be to our prophet, John Moses Browning, who hath bestowed upon us the new testament of shooting. Delivered unto us, his disciples, on 29 March 1911 A.D."
As J says, there is no exception for non-residents passing through or visiting. You must meet the same requirements as residents.
There is a lot of bad drafting in this bill, and we can't guarantee that our interpretations of the legislation won't be superceded by subsequent litigation or other judicial interpretations. But at present, a non resident runs the same risks that residents do when in possession of magazines in excess of 15 rounds. We can't predict today, only a month and a half since the law became effective, which departments will or won't enforce, and which departments will apply what interpretations.
Sayonara
Okay, I see what you mean but... I don't have receipts. They are gen2 mags. Kind of scary huh? I don't want to go on vacation and end up on probation.
My bad, still the odds local boys will stop and see the out of state of ID and not care. I guess it will depend on the person stopped and the person being stopped.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles. --Jeff Cooper"
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Correct, the burden of proof is on the state to prove you didn't have the mags before July 1... you need not prove you had them prior to the law going into effect. So receipts are not necessary. Of course, that doesn't stop someone from harassing you about it and making your day hell. There haven't been any reported cases of such tactics, yet.
Magpul does date stamp their mags, so make sure you don't bring any brand spankin new ones, bring units that you had prior to July 1 if you decide to do so.
--J
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"Praise be to our prophet, John Moses Browning, who hath bestowed upon us the new testament of shooting. Delivered unto us, his disciples, on 29 March 1911 A.D."
All questions like this should be posted on Rap Sheet Rhonda's Facebook page.
No one is going to look at your mags. Just bring them and have fun.
"Aim small...miss small"
^This
Most law enforcement agencies in the state have flatly stated they won't enforce the law as it's unenforceable and 55 of the state's Sheriffs are suing to overturn them (and there are only like 62-63 Sheriffs in CO).
Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".
"Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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-Penn Jillette
A World Without Guns <- Great Read!
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