Minimum Wage

[Bailey Guns]

They aren't entitled to anything.

If only that were true...

[Post Toastie]

If only that were true...

It is true. It's just not the case in the country right now...

[Bailey Guns]

Then it's really not true. We're sure spending a lot of money on entitlements that people aren't entitled to.

[sellersm]

Then it's really not true. We're sure spending a lot of money on entitlements that people aren't entitled to.

^This! And take that entitlement 'philosophy/worldview' and apply to every area of life: morality, spirituality, social, economic, you-name-it, and you end up with a big pile of mess. History shows us what this leads to, and it's all repeating again... This time, there may not be a 'resetting' of civilization, not as we've know it historically, anyway...

[roberth]

So these people earning $8 an hour go on strike for $15 an hour, I have a few questions.

What exemplary work did they do to demand such an outrageous increase (87.5%) for such a low-skill job? "Nothing, I deserve it" will be the idiotic answer.

Where do they think that additional $7 an hour is going to come from? My guess is that "the owner is rich" will be the typical, thoughtless, and (D) answer.

Will the quality of food and service improve in the eye of the consumer? I doubt it, in fact I'll bet the quality of both go down. The owner will seek to lower his costs thus impacting the product quality and the employee will feel emboldened to work even less.

Will my job give me a 87.5% increase just because I think I'm entitled to it? If I made such a ridiculous demand at my place of employment and I was serious about it they'd have me out the door in less than 2 or 3 weeks.

[stoner01]

So these people earning $8 an hour go on strike for $15 an hour, I have a couple of questions.

What exemplary work did they do to demand such an outrageous increase (87.5%) for such a low-skill job? "Nothing, I deserve it" will be the idiotic answer.

Where do they think that additional $7 an hour is going to come from? My guess is that "the owner is rich" will be the typical, thoughtless, and (D) answer.

Will the quality of food and service improve in the eye of the consumer? I doubt it, in fact I'll bet the quality of both go down. The owner will seek to lower his costs thus impacting the product quality and the employee will feel emboldened to work even less.

Will my job give me a 87.5% increase just because I think I'm entitled to it? If I made such a ridiculous demand at my place of employment and I was serious about it they'd have me out the door in less than 2 or 3 weeks.

Truth.

[sellersm]

...and Atlas Shrugged....

[Post Toastie]

These people are lucky to have jobs, not entitled to the "rich" owners money. Too bad they don't understand that and the union organizers tell them they "deserve" it...

[hatidua]

I've been self-employed since I was 18 (I'm several weeks shy of 47 now) and while I've never had a minimum wage job, something my wife said regarding an unrelated matter comes to mind: 'you never fully know what someone else might be going through'. Although her statement was about someone who had a relative die and kept it to themselves, I think that sentiment can be applied to a great many issues.

[tmleadr03]

I don't mean to derail the thread...but how do you live with this kind of a situation? I've always wanted to start my own business, but the whole no paycheck thing is kind of a big hurdle (especially with small kids in the picture).

My statement is not to say I have not had benefits from the business. It has paid for daycare/school for my kids, and my tool collection has doubled in, if not size, cost as I picked up expensive shop equipment. And while I do not expect a steady paycheck I am looking at putting my oldest in a private school. Still less expensive then paying a wage to myself.

But I also have a wife who works. She is covering all the expenses for the house. Though she is starting to get cranky about that. Until I bring in a steady paycheck from it she is stuck at her current job so I am very motivated to make headway on making money.