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    Quote Originally Posted by Big E3 View Post
    So are you guys saying that it wasn't my great great grand fathers Conestoga SUV that melted the 1 mile thick glaciers covering north America. And I always thought that the Indians must have had SUV's back in the far past, because of all the fossils of tropical plants found in Colorado. Are you guys saying people can't control the weather. Wow I'm relieved to hear that.


    Quote Originally Posted by TAR31 View Post
    Thanks to all the damn hippie prius drivers I'm now gonna freeze to death.
    Just get some hippie gear, like North Face or Patagonia, the synthetic fibers of which are made from.....wait for it......OIL!!! HAHAAHA Stupid hippies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big E3 View Post
    So are you guys saying that it wasn't my great great grand fathers Conestoga SUV that melted the 1 mile thick glaciers covering north America. And I always thought that the Indians must have had SUV's back in the far past, because of all the fossils of tropical plants found in Colorado. Are you guys saying people can't control the weather. Wow I'm relieved to hear that.
    Can you name the truck with four wheel drive,
    smells like a steak and seats thirty-five..

    Canyonero! Canyonero!

    Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down,
    It's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown!

    Canyonero! (Yah!) Canyonero!

    12 yards long, 2 lanes wide,
    65 tons of American Pride!

    Canyonero! Canyonero!

    Top of the line in utility sports,
    Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!

    Canyonero! Canyonero! (Yah!)
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    I'm quite familiar with Anthony Watts' site. In addition to Watts Up With That, I recommend Climate Audit, Lucia's Blackboard, Climate Etc., The Air Vent, and Bishop Hill. Lucia and Judith Curry are (or were) considered to be "lukewarmers" (meaning they believe mankind has an effect but that the CAGWers have overstated their case).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    I'm quite familiar with Anthony Watts' site. In addition to Watts Up With That, I recommend Climate Audit, Lucia's Blackboard, Climate Etc., The Air Vent, and Bishop Hill. Lucia and Judith Curry are (or were) considered to be "lukewarmers" (meaning they believe mankind has an effect but that the CAGWers have overstated their case).
    Thank you for those, something new to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    I'm quite familiar with Anthony Watts' site. In addition to Watts Up With That, I recommend Climate Audit, Lucia's Blackboard, Climate Etc., The Air Vent, and Bishop Hill. Lucia and Judith Curry are (or were) considered to be "lukewarmers" (meaning they believe mankind has an effect but that the CAGWers have overstated their case).
    This is the camp I am in.

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    Heh, I love when the argument becomes that "denyers" are "flat-earthers" while simultaneously declaring that "the science is settled." Well, back a few hundred years ago, the science was settled that the earth was flat, and look how that's changed!

    I'm in the camp that, yeah, the climate probably is changing. Whether hotter or cooler, I don't know. I believe humans probably do have some impact on it. BUT, I think that our impact is vastly exaggerated, and even if it IS changing, the earth will adapt and survive. Don't they believe in evolution and survival of the fittest?

    I think humans should be responsible and try to be cleaner (e.g. I don't like to see trucks billowing out black clouds, but that's much more rare these days than it used to be), but not at the expense of driving the economy into the ground. If the yellow-ticked-blue-billed-marmot-ant is so sensitive that a pipeline a mile away is going to drive it to extinction, then perhaps it is fate and we should just let it die out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RblDiver View Post
    Heh, I love when the argument becomes that "denyers" are "flat-earthers" while simultaneously declaring that "the science is settled." Well, back a few hundred years ago, the science was settled that the earth was flat, and look how that's changed!

    I'm in the camp that, yeah, the climate probably is changing. Whether hotter or cooler, I don't know. I believe humans probably do have some impact on it. BUT, I think that our impact is vastly exaggerated, and even if it IS changing, the earth will adapt and survive. Don't they believe in evolution and survival of the fittest?

    I think humans should be responsible and try to be cleaner (e.g. I don't like to see trucks billowing out black clouds, but that's much more rare these days than it used to be), but not at the expense of driving the economy into the ground. If the yellow-ticked-blue-billed-marmot-ant is so sensitive that a pipeline a mile away is going to drive it to extinction, then perhaps it is fate and we should just let it die out.
    But that would mean that 'they' must act in a manner that would be congruent with their stated beliefs! Oh the horror!
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    I for one, would like to see the return of the wooly mammoth! But I am not sure I am zoned for the wooly mammoth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    I for one, would like to see the return of the wooly mammoth! But I am not sure I am zoned for the wooly mammoth...
    What caliber would one use to hunt the woolly mammoth? I want to stock up now before the panic buying starts.
    Last edited by Lurch; 09-09-2013 at 16:28.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurch View Post
    What caliber would one use to hunt the woolly mammoth? I want to stock up now before the panic buying starts.

    I have a nice .50bmg mammoth stopper... I believe you test drove it already.

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