backround check

[milwaukeeshaker]

Yes this. I haven't had a background check or filled out any forms for over ten years. I could not remember the process. I just knew somewhere the gun serial and make were recorded.

Perhaps the question should have been.. "Why don't we go for background checks and do away with the 4473?" Seeing that the 4473 eventually becomes part of the national registry once the FFL closes shop and turns in their records.

[Clint45]

I suspect that the "compromise" we will be offered in a couple years is a means of getting around the annoying BGC for private purchases will be an FOID card.

Anyone found in possession of any firearm or even ammunition who does not also have a valid FOID card is guilty of a felony in Illinois.

[spqrzilla]

milwaukeeshaker,

You don't understand that the falsely named "universal background check" bills criminalize a lot of innocent conduct. That's the issue.

[rondog]

If I'm keeping a firearm for a military service person while deployed, and we're supposed to do a BGC before I give that person his/her weapon back? Um, yeah.....not. Someone can KMA.

[ChunkyMonkey]

We have drawn a line in this state.




Thou shalt not pass.

I dunno man.. the line is pretty far back. We may have stunned them. They'll keep on pushing unfortunately.

[milwaukeeshaker]

Yes I do understand, and DO NOT support ANY gun laws. What I was trying to say is I wonder if the a--wipes who want these wonderful backround checks would still want them if there was NO gun information collected???

milwaukeeshaker,

You don't understand that the falsely named "universal background check" bills criminalize a lot of innocent conduct. That's the issue.

[merl]

Yes I do understand, and DO NOT support ANY gun laws. What I was trying to say is I wonder if the a--wipes who want these wonderful backround checks would still want them if there was NO gun information collected???

Taking the reasons they gave for passage at face value they should be perfectly happy with no firearm information. We know that wasn't the whole story but the reasons used to sell it to the public would not care about information on the guns, only the buyers.

[Zundfolge]

Yes I do understand, and DO NOT support ANY gun laws. What I was trying to say is I wonder if the a--wipes who want these wonderful backround checks would still want them if there was NO gun information collected???

Yes, yes they would. I bet 99% of them don't know that there is gun info collected and nor do they care.

The ONLY purpose for the universal background check is to add one more layer of annoyance to the entire process of buying and owning guns so that they can discourage as many people as possible from buying and owning guns because the more people buy and own guns, the more people are likely to take an interest in the politics of guns (and the more likely they are to become anti Democrat on other issues).

These people would gleefully push for a law requiring all gun purchasers to tap dance while juggling oranges and singing the Catalina Magdalena Hoopensteiner Wallabeiner Song before they could purchase a gun because they're hateful, spiteful, evil people that simply want to use the machinations of the state to vex, annoy and inconvenience people they hate merely for having a difference of opinion.

As Justin once said; [the new gun laws] are merely counting coup in the culture wars.

[milwaukeeshaker]

How true. Thanks gentlemen, I appreciate the sharing of the perspectives. Unfortunately using this law on a private sale also serves to put non-papered guns back to papered status for future confiscation. I also think that was another reason for the universal BGC.

Yes, yes they would. I bet 99% of them don't know that there is gun info collected and nor do they care.

The ONLY purpose for the universal background check is to add one more layer of annoyance to the entire process of buying and owning guns so that they can discourage as many people as possible from buying and owning guns because the more people buy and own guns, the more people are likely to take an interest in the politics of guns (and the more likely they are to become anti Democrat on other issues).

These people would gleefully push for a law requiring all gun purchasers to tap dance while juggling oranges and singing the Catalina Magdalena Hoopensteiner Wallabeiner Song before they could purchase a gun because they're hateful, spiteful, evil people that simply want to use the machinations of the state to vex, annoy and inconvenience people they hate merely for having a difference of opinion.

As Justin once said; [the new gun laws] are merely counting coup in the culture wars.

[BPTactical]

How true. Thanks gentlemen, I appreciate the sharing of the perspectives. Unfortunately using this law on a private sale also serves to put non-papered guns back to papered status for future confiscation. I also think that was another reason for the universal BGC.

Didn't you get the memo?
"Its for the Children"