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    Yep, it's made in Turkey.
    Saw one at the range once - I was impressed.


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    Do I need any special paperwork/bgc for one of those 12 ga AR's?
    RMSS here in Foco have a couple of those.
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    Before he fired the first round, he had already committed a federal misdemeanor and a local felony:

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/930

    http://dccode.org/simple/sections/22-4504.html

    There are other charges that could have been tacked on prior to the first round being fired, but just the two laws above should serve as an example that laws do not stop violent people from committing crimes.

    Non of the anti-gun people out there will ever realize this. They will continue on their blind crusade to disarm the innocent and make everyone a victim, until only they and the government they elect will have control over the rest of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    Before he fired the first round, he had already committed a federal misdemeanor and a local felony:

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/930

    http://dccode.org/simple/sections/22-4504.html

    There are other charges that could have been tacked on prior to the first round being fired, but just the two laws above should serve as an example that laws do not stop violent people from committing crimes.

    Non of the anti-gun people out there will ever realize this. They will continue on their blind crusade to disarm the innocent and make everyone a victim, until only they and the government they elect will have control over the rest of us.

    Be safe.

    Makes ya want to move back east, don't it. The coastal mentality never ceases to amaze me, with as much Nanny state oversight as they can get away with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Did you read this somewhere or is this just speculation? I haven't seen anything like this in any news story.

    Good morning. Heard and read this in several locations. http://bearingarms.com/nbc-washingto...s-he-ambushed/

    However I guess I should wait for main stream media to put out the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by battle_sight_zero View Post
    Good morning. Heard and read this in several locations. http://bearingarms.com/nbc-washingto...s-he-ambushed/

    However I guess I should wait for main stream media to put out the facts.
    Cool. Thanks for that (Skully, too!). I read pretty much everything except NBC. That's pretty interesting if it turns out to be the case.

    As usual, the "facts" are going to be pretty hard to come by.
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    Just saw this on CNN. Still early in the investigation but I was surprised to see them trying to report actual facts.

    What we know: Federal law enforcement sources say authorities have recovered three weapons from the scene of the mass shooting, including one -- a shotgun -- that investigators believe he brought in to the compound. The other two weapons -- handguns -- the sources say, may have been taken from guards.


    What we don't know: The sources, who have detailed knowledge of the investigation, cautioned that initial investigation information that an AR-15 rifle was used may have been incorrect. It is believed that Alexis had rented an AR-15, but returned it before Monday morning's shootings. Authorities are still investigating precisely how many weapons Alexis had access to and when.

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    Just like reporting in Boston that it was a white male with a grudge against the US gov't..

    And then reporting that Tsarnaev had multiple guns in the boat...

    And then quietly reporting that he was unarmed and bleeding...
    To question your government is not unpatriotic — to not question your government is unpatriotic.

    Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws.

    But, it's for the children!

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    If it was a black firearm, it was an AR-15. That's all you need to know if you're a journalist.
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    I take it the rifles that are used by these security forces are actually M4s and not AR15s? I know the military has true assault rifles (select fire) but are all these rifles that the good guys have when these shootings happen, M4s or ARs?

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    FBI Washington field office just confirmed gunman was NOT armed with AR15. Spokesperson says 1 shotgun and 2 pistols recovered
    — Pamela Brown (@PamelaBrownCNN) September 17, 2013
    FBI Washington: #NavyYardShooting gunman was NOT armed with AR15. -1 shotgun & 2 pistols recovered - @PamelaBrownCNN
    — NewsBreaker (@NewsBreaker) September 17, 2013

    Trying to verify this..

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