Pistol Recoil Management Through Stance?

[BuffCyclist]

I stumbled across "Range Time with Cory and Erika" on youtube this weekend, and found this video on recoil management / posture.



Has anyone tried shooting like this, or made the switch entirely? I've done some dry firing this way and it will definitely take some getting used to, but if other people have had good experiences with this I'd be willing to give it a try.

This isn't to say I can't control the recoil of my pistols, I'm simply looking to improve my shooting skills, tighten up my groups and be able to shoot faster more accurately at longer distances (30-40+ yds).

Because I know someone will ask, I currently shoot with what I would call modified isosceles, shoulders square to target, push forward with right hand and pull backwards with left hand and keeping elbows slightly bent, all while slightly leaning forward with my torso.

Alternatively, is what they're discussing in their videos bogus? As in, do they know what they're talking about or are they just making videos to get money from youtube?

[Big Wall]

Rolling your elbows up definately helps with recoil management. If definately takes some getting use to and practice to do it without thinking about it.

[dan512]

The proof is in the pudding. Put yourself on a timer and see what kind of split times you get trying their way and your way.

[Wulf202]

It's just isosceles it's been around for a while and it works.

[cysoto]

Has anyone tried shooting like this, or made the switch entirely?

Rollings your shoulders froward causes you to drop your head into your should sockets, creating unnecessary stress in your neck muscles.

Saul Kirsch does a much better job in this video explaining how the shooter's stance can be used to properly manage recoil (nonetheless, keep in mind that no amount of videos will take the place of proper instruction with a qualified instructor): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2a9BGzkDsU

[Irving]

I was checking my stance. I think I turn my left elbow up. I have developed the habit of making a kind of cheek weld on my right shoulder. It probably does create extra stress on my neck, but I don't really shoot a pistol for long enough for it to effect me (that I can tell). Anyway, the reason I do the cheek weld, is because it helps me develop the muscle memory of drawing and pointing the same every time.

[cysoto]

I was checking my stance. I think I turn my left elbow up. I have developed the habit of making a kind of cheek weld on my right shoulder. It probably does create extra stress on my neck, but I don't really shoot a pistol for long enough for it to effect me (that I can tell). Anyway, the reason I do the cheek weld, is because it helps me develop the muscle memory of drawing and pointing the same every time.

This may work while shooting from a static position but, whether you are practicing your shooting skills for dynamic action pistol competition or doing so for tactical applications, you will soon learn that this shooting position negatively impacts movement.

[BuffCyclist]

Rolling your elbows up definately helps with recoil management. If definately takes some getting use to and practice to do it without thinking about it.

Hmm, might be some merit to it after all. Guess its time for another trip the range to test it out.

The proof is in the pudding. Put yourself on a timer and see what kind of split times you get trying their way and your way.

No access to a timer, splits or even know what you're talking about . Wanting to get into IPSC now that my knee is healing and with that comes more attention to stance.

It's just isosceles it's been around for a while and it works.

Not really, I'm talking about the turning the elbows out to mitigate the effects of muzzle flip and recoil on second shots.

Rollings your shoulders froward causes you to drop your head into your should sockets, creating unnecessary stress in your neck muscles.

Saul Kirsch does a much better job in this video explaining how the shooter's stance can be used to properly manage recoil (nonetheless, keep in mind that no amount of videos will take the place of proper instruction with a qualified instructor): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2a9BGzkDsU

Thanks for the video, I'll have to watch that later and take notes too. Perhaps its just me though, but I can roll my elbows outwards without affecting my head or dropping my head into the shoulders.

I was checking my stance. I think I turn my left elbow up. I have developed the habit of making a kind of cheek weld on my right shoulder. It probably does create extra stress on my neck, but I don't really shoot a pistol for long enough for it to effect me (that I can tell). Anyway, the reason I do the cheek weld, is because it helps me develop the muscle memory of drawing and pointing the same every time.

Guess I could start out by rolling my left elbow more outwards, my right elbow is already turned outwards quite a bit. I could see how a cheek weld on the shoulder could benefit you for 50-100yd shots, but wouldn't want to rely on that as it does turn your head sideways and isn't fast for moving or defensive purposes.

[Irving]

This may work while shooting from a static position but, whether you are practicing your shooting skills for dynamic action pistol competition or doing so for tactical applications, you will soon learn that this shooting position negatively impacts movement.

This is definitely something that I do when I'm drawing at home, so very static indeed. Usually anything I practice at home.goes out the window during competitions. It is a very long time before I am able to successfully integrate new techniques.

[rtr]

These two clowns have as much credibility as anyone else on YouTube, if you want to improve your pistol shooting you might want to look to those who are using techniques that are proven. One place to prove techniques is in competition, here are a few pictures to get you started http://www.gunnuts.net/2013/07/08/ex...ooting-stance/