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    Operation Market Garden (17–25 September 1944) was an unsuccessful Allied military operation, fought in the Netherlands and Germany in the Second World War. It was the largest airborne operation up to that time








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    You always remember VE/VJ Day, Dec 7th, etc...but not the failures. Nice looking out!

    Monty's Folly was a splendid way to waste British and American airborne and glider troops.
    Infantry with light weapons don't do so well against armor; "Sir" Montgomery ignored the SS armor in the recon photos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikedubs View Post
    You always remember VE/VJ Day, Dec 7th, etc...but not the failures. Nice looking out!
    take the good with the bad
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    I think I'll go home and watch "A Bridge Too Far" tonight!

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    and they missed the DZ by 25 miles. We always did a jump, 25 mile march, then hit an objective on this day to remember how bad that sucked...

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    and they missed the DZ by 25 miles. We always did a jump, 25 mile march, then hit an objective on this day to remember how bad that sucked...
    I remember helping to plan an air assault mission into a particularly nasty part of Iraq. That was seven years ago. We did that in memory of Market Garden.
    Just doing what I can to stay on this side of the dirt.

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    Sorry Brits but....

    Monty always sucked as a leader. Unoriginal, over-rated, egotistical, and a camera whore. NEVER fought unless he had overwhelming support in his favor. He needed 8 to 1 in Egypt to beat Rommel. Rommel had less than 100 tanks, mainly Italian shit, and Monty still barely won in 42. Real hard to beat the Desert Fox when Rommel had no oil, no air cover, and 30 Mk3 tanks...and Rommel wasn't even at the battle!
    Normandy- again, overwhelming odds in favor of him. When the odds were even he sucked. Not a tank commander like Guderian, Patton, Manstein, Patton, or Rommel. Ike wasn't too keen on him either. Monty stabbed him in the back while Ike was President-

    Dude liked little boys too...just like the other big Brit General Kitchener.

    Years ago while visiting England I saw a drink in a pub called a Monty Martini. It was something like 12:1 or 15:1 ratio of gin to vermouth. It was a drink in honor of Montgomery's failure to attack unless well supplied.
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    The Battle of Arnhem (Operation Market Garden)

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwa...rnhem_01.shtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tor Larson View Post
    Years ago while visiting England I saw a drink in a pub called a Monty Martini. It was something like 12:1 or 15:1 ratio of gin to vermouth. It was a drink in honor of Montgomery's failure to attack unless well supplied.
    Hahaha that's awesome!

    Slightly non-interesting tidbit about A Bridge Too Far: the wonderful music score was composed by the late great John Addison. He did a number of film scores, including the theme to Murder She Wrote.

    John was also a tank commander and actually fought in Operation Market Garden. So when you hear that awesome music playing as the American troop transports take off on their mission, the man who composed that music was actually there.

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    I worked with some guys from Nijmegen, Netherlands and they sure as hell were appreciative of what the US & Allied Forces did for them to liberate them even though Market Garden was not the success that we had hoped for. The older generation who expereinced the German Occupation have passed on the respect and reverence to the younger generation. They Honor and Decorate on American Hoilidays, the American Cemetaries for Veteren's Day and Memorial Day, with flags and the like to honor the fallen who came to their aid. Even the younger generations have this respect and honor instilled into them.

    The Dutch are truly class acts IMHO and definatly appreciate what the US & Allied forces did for them.

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