Starbucks no longer allow customers with guns

[jhood001]

Probably would have been best if they didn't even put out a memo. Just that they accept any customer with money, respect the laws of the states their stores operate in and only ask that the customers be polite, enjoy their coffee and come back.

I just re-read your post. Spot on.

I think they wanted to support what you're talking about from the beginning, but their open arms were interpreted as an avenue to promote an agenda.

Degenerate clowns sporting mexican carry and acting like dipshits ruined this. Purposeful open carry didn't.

[lllRorlll]

respectfully requesting is saying NO DONT... right? according to the ccw classes I took... I believe it was something like " if a person of authority says no" then is as good as a sign. am I wrong?... if I am right then` fuck em. its another stroke of the whittling knife.

[davsel]

From: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ings-john-fund

Lott offers a final damning statistic: “With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.”

F-em

[Bailey Guns]

Since Starbucks is a private entity I'm having a hard time seeing this as a 2A issue. Sounds more like they want to conduct their business without this huge distraction. How hard is that to understand? I agree with jhood. It's probably more likely that a few arrogant "OC'ers" fucked it up for everyone else. And I'm pretty sure the letter only refers to OC, not concealed carry and it's abundantly clear this is a request. They're asking people to act like adults but that's just too much for some folks. I've rarely seen a more polite and well-worded corporate response to pretty much anything.

But hey, they don't support our military either,...

Pretty sure that whole thing was debunked as just another internet rumor.

[sniper7]

As long as it s legal it's cool. If it pisses off a few people then so be it, if they make it a corporate policy and people are getting kicked out for open carry then it is time to boycott. Al this is is a letter to appease the other side. I believe Starbucks is on our side but ultimately they know that libtards also frequent their stores and make them money. It is a fine line, a line they should have never mentioned a word on other than they obey the law of the land as written.

[brutal]

Every state is different.

I just took the UT CFP class and if a business owner puts a post-it note on the door, it's legal and binding criminal trespass.

In Texas, the signage must confirm to the letter of the law and is binding criminal trespass as I understand it.

In Colorado, it's criminal trespass if you're caught and refuse to vacate.

If anyone reads the letter, it's a request, not a ban or demand.

jhood001 hit it. Doofus open carry turdsticks and freaked out OMG he's got a gun! soccer moms fooked up any chance of SBX allowing status quo.

Concealed is concealed, I will continue to get my fix at SBX and no one will be the wiser - just like it always was.

[Bailey Guns]

From: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ings-john-fund

Lott offers a final damning statistic: “With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.”

F-em

FFS, dude. Read the letter. Starbucks is not prohibiting guns. They're politely asking people not to openly carry.

[davsel]

F-em
If they really don't want people carrying in their store, put up a sign stating so - as the law allows.
However, they are too cowardly/greedy to take a stand on one side or the other. They know it is a constitutional right, but they don't want to openly allow it any more, and are too much of a pussy to come out and say it.
F-em

[jhood001]

Agreed and amen.

OCing after a range trip and you stop in for a coffee? Go for it.

Strapping on your firearm because you're going to get a coffee at a place that you feel has been designated as OC friendly? You are part of the problem. Seriously.

[Bailey Guns]

F-em
If they really don't want people carrying in their store, put up a sign stating so - as the law allows.
However, they are too cowardly/greedy to take a stand on one side or the other. They know it is a constitutional right, but they don't want to openly allow it any more, and are too much of a pussy to come out and say it.
F-em

I think this is probably the type of attitude that prompted the letter.

They could've come and said "some of you people are too fucking stupid to use common sense so we kinda have to use it for you".