Starbucks no longer allow customers with guns

[RblDiver]

Are you suggesting that we give up our principle and act more liberal? Not happening to this guy. Let's just agree to disagree.

I'm saying we need to, pardon the expression, stick to our guns. As the article I linked says, "you’ll think about how silly it was for you to give up Starbucks in the name of something that literally never impacted you in the first place because you don’t have an open-carry permit." Conservatives generally lead a happier life because we don't get truly obsessed over things like this. Sure we may bluster about for a bit, but eventually we forgive. This is all well and good, except that this can then lead to further actions being taken that go even further. Just a bit at a time, but eventually things'll reach a tipping point. No drop thinks it is responsible for the flood. Bridges loaded with too much weight WILL eventually break.

There comes a time when you just have to say "You shall not pass." Is Starbucks this moment? No, but it's just another example of another drop being added to the forthcoming flood.

[TFOGGER]

Pretentious hipsters with iPads wasting their day away at Starbucks while collecting their 99 weeks of unemployment make me "unsettled and upset". Can I get those fucksticks evicted?

[10mm-man]

F-em
If they really don't want people carrying in their store, put up a sign stating so - as the law allows.
However, they are too cowardly/greedy to take a stand on one side or the other. They know it is a constitutional right, but they don't want to openly allow it any more, and are too much of a pussy to come out and say it.
F-em

^^^ Exactly..... It's not a neutral position. Your either on board with it or you are not. Suck asses playing both sides of the fence.

[10mm-man]

Agreed and amen.

OCing after a range trip and you stop in for a coffee? Go for it.

Strapping on your firearm because you're going to get a coffee at a place that you feel has been designated as OC friendly? You are part of the problem. Seriously.

I believe they narrowed it down to only people "on duty". Going to the range is not an "on duty" function unless your LEO.

[hatidua]

Are you suggesting that we give up our principle and act more liberal? Not happening to this guy. Let's just agree to disagree.

I don't think it's a case of giving up principle when a person consciously chooses to spend their money at companies that support their ideals rather than at establishements who actively try to curtail those very same principles and ideals. What I took from the article (in it's entirety, not a mere snippet) is that liberals focus and work at achieving their goals, whereas the conservatives gloss over these things and go right on supporting the enemy 48 hours after the storm has blown over. Colorado was able to recall two legislators through a focused effort but we need to apply that level of focus across the board. I have no qualms, whatsoever, with a merchant doing what ever they want with their own company. But compartmentalizing and justifying that behavior by the pro-2A community by brushing it off as being mere capitalism misses the point: sure, it's capitalism and the very nature of capitalism is that we don't have to support a given vendor, we can take our business elsewhere. I think the article was trying to convey that liberals have longer memories when it comes to company policy whereas conservatives don't have the same level of passion for their causes. If, after repeated poor behavior, we can essentially boycott Cheaper-Than-Dirt, I don't think it's such a reach to apply scrutiny to each entity that we determine worthy of our patronage.

If concerting our efforts toward a specified goal is deemed acting more liberal, I suspect the 2A will cease to exist within my lifetime. That's truly camel with head in sand behavior.

"The left, however, does the politicized life exceptionally well. They mount campaigns to pressure corporations to get what they want. They organize boycotts. They direct their complaints to gatekeepers who share their views and can influence policy. They blacklist artists with whom they disagree and pressure corporations to do the same. They control the levers of the media to add additional pressure from newspapers and television networks.So there will be a lot of fulmination on social media from those on the right about rights and guns and the Constitution, and then a little less the next day, and a little less the day after that, until finally you forgot why you were mad at Starbucks and you stop tweeting and facebooking and kvetching and start buying pumpkin spice lattes by the bucketful and, in a moment of clarity, you’ll think about how silly it was for you to give up Starbucks in the name of something that literally never impacted you in the first place because you don’t have an open-carry permit.

[Rucker61]

Which Starbucks in Foco do you patronize?

West Drake.

[UrbanWolf]

Think like it this way: Pizza Hut no longer allow customer carry guns, no problem, they are private business. Bufflo Wild Wings no longer allow customer carry guns, no problem, they are private business. Starbucks no longer allow customer carry guns, still no problem, they are private business... Then what? McDonald, Burger King, Gunther Today's.....

Are we really going to tolerant to the point when we can't carry our guns anywhere expect our own basements?

[10mm-man]

I don't think it's a case of giving up principle when a person consciously chooses to spend their money at companies that support their ideals rather than at establishements who actively try to curtail those very same principles and ideals. What I took from the article (in it's entirety, not a mere snippet) is that liberals focus and work at achieving their goals, whereas the conservatives gloss over these things and go right on supporting the enemy 48 hours after the storm has blown over. Colorado was able to recall two legislators through a focused effort but we need to apply that level of focus across the board. I have no qualms, whatsoever, with a merchant doing what ever they want with their own company. But compartmentalizing and justifying that behavior by the pro-2A community by brushing it off as being mere capitalism misses the point: sure, it's capitalism and the very nature of capitalism is that we don't have to support a given vendor, we can take our business elsewhere. I think the article was trying to convey that liberals have longer memories when it comes to company policy whereas conservatives don't have the same level of passion for their causes. If, after repeated poor behavior, we can essentially boycott Cheaper-Than-Dirt, I don't think it's such a reach to apply scrutiny to each entity that we determine worthy of our patronage.

If concerting our efforts toward a specified goal is deemed acting more liberal, I suspect the 2A will cease to exist within my lifetime. That's truly camel with head in sand behavior.

"The left, however, does the politicized life exceptionally well. They mount campaigns to pressure corporations to get what they want. They organize boycotts. They direct their complaints to gatekeepers who share their views and can influence policy. They blacklist artists with whom they disagree and pressure corporations to do the same. They control the levers of the media to add additional pressure from newspapers and television networks.So there will be a lot of fulmination on social media from those on the right about rights and guns and the Constitution, and then a little less the next day, and a little less the day after that, until finally you forgot why you were mad at Starbucks and you stop tweeting and facebooking and kvetching and start buying pumpkin spice lattes by the bucketful and, in a moment of clarity, you’ll think about how silly it was for you to give up Starbucks in the name of something that literally never impacted you in the first place because you don’t have an open-carry permit.

Well said..

[RblDiver]

Are we really going to tolerant to the point when we can't carry our guns anywhere expect our own basements?

Well, we could open our own shops. I visited my aunt up in Wyoming last week, and we stopped at a little restaurant with two signs I adored:
1. Due to the increasing cost of bullets, no warning shots will be fired.
2. [Paraphrasing, don't remember exact wording] Guns are permitted in this establishment. We ask that you keep them holstered unless you need them. If you do, judicious marksmanship is appreciated.

[wctriumph]

I have not been to a Starbucks in like two years, just can't afford to spend my money that way. The last time I did go was for the "appreciation" day and I was CCW at that time. Two other guys were OC and there was a cop that could care less.

I don't care to go there anymore, even without the letter.