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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    THE IRS??? Why not HHS, a dept geared towards HEALTH vs. one who uses capricious and arbitrary laws to steal property.

    I don't support unions, just curious why what they term THE REASON OBAMA was REELECTED comes out and says ACA will destroy the unions .
    Unions don't make up 53% of the population, which is what got Obama reelected. That's like saying the NRA is responsible for Morse being recalled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hghclsswhitetrsh View Post

    Wake up from your pony dreams and join the real adult world.
    Kind of hard to do when one is in the basement surrounded by video monitors and games with pink and purple toy horsies to keep one company.......
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    The interstate commerce clause has never before been interpreted to mean that the government could mandate that the people purchase something. And in fact, the Supreme Court didn't hold that it could in the case of the ACA.

    After explicit statutory language that the individual mandate penalty was not a tax but a specific penalty for failing to purchase something, after Democrat supporters of the ACA legislation repeatedly stating that the penalty was not a tax, the Supreme Court - solely because the Chief Justice shifted his initial position - held that in fact, the individual mandate was simply a tax enacted under the Congress' taxing power.
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    That said, the ACA is a disasterous piece of legislation written by a pack of monkeys utterly ignorant of basic economics. The legislation sets up incentives for small employers to stay small, to shift full time employees to part time and to decide to abandon employer sponsored coverage.

    The regulation of the healthcare insurance industry is set up to destroy economical health insurance, forbid high deductable affordable plans, and force everyone to buy expensive health insurance with coverage of luxury or special interest medical care options inserted by paying off Congress.

    The ACA is already doing immense damage to our economy and its "reform" of health care insurance is actually taking that industry in the opposite direction of where it should go.

    Oh, and the promises of all those people ACA would put into coverage that were not covered before? That was all BS:
    http://blogs.the-american-interest.c...-expectations/
    Last edited by spqrzilla; 09-21-2013 at 09:37.
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    ACA does make it so someone can't be denied coverage due to pre existing conditions, which it's one of the few things in it that I agree with.

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    Those ponies have really rotted your brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAR31 View Post
    Those ponies have really rotted your brain.
    Spending a weekend in Fountain did far worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    Those polls also show more than 50% of Americans are in favor of tougher gun laws. The people are ignorant, and polls can be worded to skew the results.
    Agreed, i hate it when people use polls of any sort to try and prove their point.

    My problem is we already paid more for public healthcare (ie medicare, poor, illegals, etc etc) before ACA then the people of countries that have a centralized healthcare system do per capita and now they want to add more then a hundred million people to a like program. I do not see these costs going down in the future with the ACA's implementation either. If anything i think it will be like the postage stamp and go up in price in small increments and in time will do more harm then good. Also i do not trust our government to run much of anything, we have too much corruption for me to think they will do whats right for the people.

    I have thought for a long time the government really needed to do some form of healthcare reform but this option seems to be a poor one. I have no doubt it will go in to effect so only time will tell now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    Kind of hard to do when one is in the basement surrounded by video monitors and games with pink and purple toy horsies to keep one company.......
    That's called profiling !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    Kind of hard to do when one is in the basement surrounded by video monitors and games with pink and purple toy horsies to keep one company.......
    Well this certainly convinces me of your point. Excellent debate technique.
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