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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Those bills won't come up until after the house, senate and Governor's mansion are under (R) control. The recalls are only part of the political backlash coming against the Democrats (knock wood).
    How likely is that to happen to Colorado in the next 20 years? Liberal Cali refugee population is just too large for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    The toughest one to repeal will be the UBGC law ... but even that isn't immune, lots of people hate it and its possible that the repeal of all the new gun laws will come down to a single bill.
    The mag ban will very likely be repealed as its stupid and people hate it (and it may be overturned by a constitutional amendment voted on by the people).
    We're going to be stuck with the $10 fee tacked on to BGCs forever though ... but if it just applies to FFL transfers it'll suck but we can probably live with it.
    Obviously I hope they both get repealed but I sure hope they separate the bills if they do try. I don't have high hopes that the UBGC will ever get repealed and I would hate to have repealing the mag ban shot down because it was tied to the UBGC bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnrider View Post
    Obviously I hope they both get repealed but I sure hope they separate the bills if they do try. I don't have high hopes that the UBGC will ever get repealed and I would hate to have repealing the mag ban shot down because it was tied to the UBGC bill.
    Maybe our governor or future governor can learn from Dear Leader and repeal them with a state EO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanWolf View Post
    Maybe our governor or future governor can learn from Dear Leader and repeal them with a state EO?
    I hope so but I don't see the BGC ever going away. There are many gun owners/supporters that even approve of it. It would be political suicide for anyone to try and appeal it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnrider View Post
    I hope so but I don't see the BGC ever going away. There are many gun owners/supporters that even approve of it. It would be political suicide for anyone to try and appeal it.
    You say this in a thread about the third legislator in Colorado history to face recall PRECIOUSLY because of the BGC law (along with the others). No, it would not be political suicide for anyone to try to repeal the BGC law ... it may be difficult, but frankly any politician that tries will be a flippin' hero to a large chunk of Coloradoans.

    I also don't buy the "many gun owners/supporters approve of it" bit either ... most of the "even most gun owners support BGCs" nonsense is about supporting Brady checks at gun shops, not UNIVERSAL BGCs. And even then I think its more about them being asked in polls if they approve of "laws to keep guns out of the hands of criminals" in the generic sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I also don't buy the "many gun owners/supporters approve of it" bit either ... most of the "even most gun owners support BGCs" nonsense is about supporting Brady checks at gun shops, not UNIVERSAL BGCs. And even then I think its more about them being asked in polls if they approve of "laws to keep guns out of the hands of criminals" in the generic sense.
    I personally know many gun owners who support the BGC. I don't agree with them but they have the right to there opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnrider View Post
    I hope so but I don't see the BGC ever going away. There are many gun owners/supporters that even approve of it. It would be political suicide for anyone to try and appeal it.
    If that's the case then national level it will go. Fuck it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnrider View Post
    I personally know many gun owners who support the BGC. I don't agree with them but they have the right to there opinion.
    Remind them that everyone who left their guns at a friends house for safe keeping because of the fire or flooding is a criminal now under the BGC law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabid View Post
    Remind them that everyone who left their guns at a friends house for safe keeping because of the fire or flooding is a criminal now under the BGC law.
    Don't know anyone who has done that. Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just stating the facts. Your naive if you think every gun owner has a "no compromise" view like we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnrider View Post
    Don't know anyone who has done that. Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just stating the facts. Your naive if you think every gun owner has a "no compromise" view like we do.
    Mark Kelly come to mind...

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