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    M4Fundi
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    Default Carbine vs Mid Length Gas System? I searched

    I searched and it didn't work.

    What are the pros & cons of these?

    Is the Carbine length as reliable?

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    This was an issue in the past with carbines; but it has been resolved.
    The closer the gas port to the chamber the more violent, higher pressure that occurs to cycle the carrier/bolt.
    There was initially some issues with 10-16" carbines and reliability, that was fixed with gas port diameter holes and buffer weight.

    The mid-lenth gas systems has never had problems as far as I know.


    For the most part, now even the little SBR 6-10" barrels are even reliable.
    I say lets all remove the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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    M4Fundi
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    What are the pros and cons?

    CARBINE:
    Is there more recoil form the lighter weight? Or from the short system itself? Does it run dirtier? Is it harder on parts? etc....

    MID LENGTH:
    Is it MUCH heavier? Slower cyclic rate? etc...

    Is there a sticky or thread on this already somewhere?

    Thanks

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    Weight isn't the issue.. there are several considerations, but the most predominant these days is sight radius. You have a longer one with a Middy. There's a bunch of discussion about this all over the errornet, but the reality is that we, as civilians will rarely be in a position to encounter the pro's and or con's of either configuration.

    I personally don't have any more middies because the 2 I had were both Heavy Barreled and I wanted the weight reduction an M4 cut barrel offered. Though there were other solutions - swaping out the barrels, going with a fluted or light weight barrel, I just switched back to carbine.. and then unfortunately, they were both lost in a tragic boating accident... sad day indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadShot View Post
    Weight isn't the issue.. there are several considerations, but the most predominant these days is sight radius. You have a longer one with a Middy. There's a bunch of discussion about this all over the errornet, but the reality is that we, as civilians will rarely be in a position to encounter the pro's and or con's of either configuration.

    I personally don't have any more middies because the 2 I had were both Heavy Barreled and I wanted the weight reduction an M4 cut barrel offered. Though there were other solutions - swaping out the barrels, going with a fluted or light weight barrel, I just switched back to carbine.. and then unfortunately, they were both lost in a tragic boating accident... sad day indeed.
    Sorry for your loss. I had a similar one recently. The divers said the fish were seen taking the lost firearms to an underwater cavern where they could not be recovered...all is lost
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    More powder burn with a middy.

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