Sen. Ted Cruz Fillibusters For Obamacare

[Dave]

To make clear my position, I am against the ACA in its entirety, though I do not approve of either dems or republicans threatening a shutdown of the gov't over its repeal. The over 40 times tried before failed to clear the senate, so it makes it seem more like grandstanding for his own personal and political gain to be doing this. It also has very publicly exposed rifts within the conservative ranks and could cause divides and infighting that have already cost conservatives at local, state and federal levels in the recent elections. I know most don't think it's a big deal for the gov't to shut down or for people to be furloughed, but the ones that are going to be in a nonpay status won't be Congress, POTUS, executive schedule employees, air traffic controllers or other higher paid people. The ones furloughed will be the park and forest rangers, clerks, accountants, Indian reservation teachers, people making in the 30k-50k range that will be impacted much harder than the "essential" air traffic controllers making 100k, or congressmen making 174k.

[Zundfolge]

To make clear my position, I am against the ACA in its entirety, though I do not approve of either dems or republicans threatening a shutdown of the gov't over its repeal. The over 40 times tried before failed to clear the senate, so it makes it seem more like grandstanding for his own personal and political gain to be doing this. It also has very publicly exposed rifts within the conservative ranks and could cause divides and infighting that have already cost conservatives at local, state and federal levels in the recent elections. I know most don't think it's a big deal for the gov't to shut down or for people to be furloughed, but the ones that are going to be in a nonpay status won't be Congress, POTUS, executive schedule employees, air traffic controllers or other higher paid people. The ones furloughed will be the park and forest rangers, clerks, accountants, Indian reservation teachers, people making in the 30k-50k range that will be impacted much harder than the "essential" air traffic controllers making 100k, or congressmen making 174k.

The specter of Government Shutdown is WAY overblown ... anyone furloughed during a gov shutdown gets back paid and most of them get help from their unions with short term problems like buying food and what not. The real criminal thing is that Dems will do more harm during a shutdown than they really need to because they want the people to "feel the pain" ... and then blame it on Republicans. Shameful. It's called The Washington Monument Ploy and we have GOT to stop falling for it.

Anyway, the Federal Government has shut down 17 times before with no negative consequences to the people so to claim that a government shutdown is some awful, horrible, terribly painful thing is just bovine scat.

The Dems would circle the wagons if one of theirs was caught on video murdering someone with smoking gun in-hand.

This is why we're where we are. A D gets in trouble and they circle the wagons, an R gets in trouble and they circle the firing squad.

As for Cruz running for President, after this I think I'd rather see him stick around the Senate for a while ... maybe take Harry Ried's job if the Senate goes "R". At least I'd like to see him as a voice of conscience in the senate for real conservatives (someone has to fight McLame, Lindsay and the other RINO trash). Being President is highly over rated, the real power is in the legislature (especially for Republicans since no Republican president would be allowed to get away with 1/10th the shit Obummer has pulled).

[kidicarus13]

The specter of Government Shutdown is WAY overblown ... anyone furloughed during a gov shutdown gets back paid and most of them get help from their unions with short term problems like buying food and what not. The real criminal thing is that Dems will do more harm during a shutdown than they really need to because they want the people to "feel the pain" ... and then blame it on Republicans. Shameful. It's called The Washington Monument Ploy and we have GOT to stop falling for it.

Anyway, the Federal Government has shut down 17 times before with no negative consequences to the people so to claim that a government shutdown is some awful, horrible, terribly painful thing is just bovine scat.