Public School over-reach?

[10mm-man]

Maybe someone said this; I didn't read the whole thing. What would you do if you were the coach of the team and found out about this? Don't NFL players get reprimanded for actions outside of football. Don't athletes get held accountable for there actions? I think it is a good lesson!

[Monky]

The criminals.. yeah they're not kids.. they crossed that line 'foolish prank' or not.. They knew it wasn't their vehicle.

Conduct of team players outside of school has always been something coaches push for.. your actions reflect poorly on the team.. you suffer. I do not see an issue with it. At all levels of sports it happens. Granted when someone famous does something stupid they're ridiculed in the public eye.. then fined by the league, take a monetary loss from suspensions..

The criminals actions had a negative impact on the 'team'.. The coach's/school's decision to suspend the players for a single game is fairly lenient.. Some coaches would just remove the kids from the team altogether. Should the team lose a game due to the suspended players.. well I suppose they'll have to answer to their team mates then too won't they..

play stupid games win stupid prizes.

[davsel]

I did not realize this board was made up of so many perfectly disciplined former youth.

I'm thankful that where I grew up, parents and schools knew the difference between criminal activity and youthful pranks.
You get caught pulling a prank off campus, the parents get involved; on campus, the school and the parents get involved.
Cops should not get called for pranks, no matter where they occur.

As far as a coach's jurisdiction, it does not extend beyond the school and the practice field. These are not professional athletes who are being paid to play. That would be more equal to any full-time employment, where if you mess up outside of work, and it reflects negatively on your employer, you get fired. These are kids in an extracurricular activity.

Coaches, Band Directors, Drama Teachers, etc., don't have special disciplinary privileges that extend beyond their roll as the organizer of an activity.
If something happens during school or practice, the coach should handle it, along with the parents.
If it happens outside of school or practice, it is the parents responsibility.

[crays]

I did not realize this board was made up of so many perfectly disciplined former youth.

I'm thankful that where I grew up, parents and schools knew the difference between criminal activity and youthful pranks.
You get caught pulling a prank off campus, the parents get involved; on campus, the school and the parents get involved.
Cops should not get called for pranks, no matter where they occur.

As far as a coach's jurisdiction, it does not extend beyond the school and the practice field. These are not professional athletes who are being paid to play. That would be more equal to any full-time employment, where if you mess up outside of work, and it reflects negatively on your employer, you get fired. These are kids in an extracurricular activity.

Coaches, Band Directors, Drama Teachers, etc., don't have special disciplinary privileges that extend beyond their roll as the organizer of an activity.
If something happens during school or practice, the coach should handle it, along with the parents.
If it happens outside of school or practice, it is the parents responsibility.

Why is it it that when the. "in crowd" kids prank an "outsider" it's youthful indiscretion, but when an the tables are reversed, it's malicious mischief?

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[davsel]

Why is it it that when the. "in crowd" kids prank an "outsider" it's youthful indiscretion, but when an the tables are reversed, it's malicious mischief?

Just teaching kids how the real world operates.

[crays]

Just teaching kids how the real world operates.

So you condone this notion of elitism?

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[davsel]

So you condone this notion of elitism?

Really?

I also recognize the fact that our country has been overthrown by Marxists.
Does that somehow imply that I condone the fact?

I think you may have over-reached.

[flyingcouch]

I did not realize this board was made up of so many perfectly disciplined former youth.

I'm thankful that where I grew up, parents and schools knew the difference between criminal activity and youthful pranks.
You get caught pulling a prank off campus, the parents get involved; on campus, the school and the parents get involved.
Cops should not get called for pranks, no matter where they occur.

As far as a coach's jurisdiction, it does not extend beyond the school and the practice field. These are not professional athletes who are being paid to play. That would be more equal to any full-time employment, where if you mess up outside of work, and it reflects negatively on your employer, you get fired. These are kids in an extracurricular activity.

Coaches, Band Directors, Drama Teachers, etc., don't have special disciplinary privileges that extend beyond their roll as the organizer of an activity.
If something happens during school or practice, the coach should handle it, along with the parents.
If it happens outside of school or practice, it is the parents responsibility.

I don't think anyone here is preaching from their pedestal. I think they are just saying that its ok for the volleyball coach to discipline a player in this situation. Does not mean that they never screwed up.

I believe coaches should hold their players to a higher standard. don't be confused because the principle is the coach. I believe this was the reaction from the "coach" and not the principle. recently my sons highschool football team was spreading some rumors amongst themselves regarding the female student team managers. Their next practice was heavy on the conditioning and involved a lot of running, crawling, up-downs, high knees, more running, sprinting, and throwing up. The school cannot discipline this way, but the coach can. Coaches do have special disciplinary privilages.

[hatidua]

the Principal decided that the girls involved in the prank will be prohibited from playing in the next volleyball game.

That's it?!

If someone did that to my car, and it caused the loss of my belongings, -well, some things are better not put into print.

Those girls got off light and now realize that the only scholastic repercussion from messing with another students car is missing a volleyball game.

[Lurch]

Flyingcouch beat me to this but I will still leave my response.

What everyone keeps over looking here is was it the principal that gave them the one game suspension or the coach. Granted this is the same person who is most likely volunteering their time to teach/coach these kids but that is the question that needs answered. If it's the principal side of this person then yes they have over stepped their boundaries. If it's the coach side then no they have all the right to suspend someone from playing.