Why would you ever need more than 15 rounds.

[<MADDOG>]

That's not my problem. You don't make points very well.

if I'm defending my family from bad guys, I will 100% be trying to kill them. You said nobody defending their family is trying to kill anyone. You are wrong, as usual.

Semantics gentlemen...

Anyway, to answer the "15 round enough" question; the video cuts off right before the group pulls him out of the car. How many people actively were involved with the beating of the driver? I'm willing to bet it was over three.

[newracer]

That's not my problem. You don't make points very well.

if I'm defending my family from bad guys, I will 100% be trying to kill them. You said nobody defending their family is trying to kill anyone. You are wrong, as usual.

You don't get it, you don't shoot to kill, you shoot to stop a threat. Once the threat is gone you stop shooting.

[BushMasterBoy]

I wonder if Mayor Bloomberg will spend $200K on this incident like he did on Angela Giron? bwaha

[generalmeow]

You don't get it, you don't shoot to kill, you shoot to stop a threat. Once the threat is gone you stop shooting.

I thought you only shoot someone if you intend to kill them. I'll try to remember to do the bare minimum when trying to stop the next threat to my life.

[KestrelBike]

My biggest fear, especially if the vehicle is stuck in traffic and a decision is made to draw a weapon and open fire, is that some of those twerps also had firearms and return fire into the barrel (the SUV) of fish (wife and kid).

I suppose the best option is to have wife and kid stay in locked vehicle, exit the vehicle and take your targeted self as far away as possible from the SUV w the wife and kid in it.

Mostly I just think that it's NY and there are zero good guys around with a weapon. Fucking shitstain bloomberg.

[Mrmegacool]

They would have pulled up beside me and noticed me wearing my electronic ear-pro and shooting glass and a smile.

I second that !...

[Mrmegacool]

Speak for yourself. The gun in my nightstand ain't for scaring people off. That's joe bidens plan.

You got that right!

[Zundfolge]

Fucking shitstain bloomberg.

Bloomberg may be the current shitstain in NYC, but Thomas Sullivan is the shitstain we can blame for this one (and he's been dead since 1913). Yep another corrupt Democrat.

[muddywings]

cops bust road rage bike thug:

http://nypost.com/2013/10/01/cops-bust-bike-thug/

Police arrested one biker among a swarm of motorcyclists that forced a driver off the West Side Highway in Upper Manhattan, minutes before the man was assaulted in front of his wife and two-year-old daughter more than 50 blocks away.
Christopher Cruz, 28, of Passaic, New Jersey, was charged with reckless endangerment, reckless driving, endangering the welfare of a child and menacing in the first of two harrowing confrontations Alexian Lien had with a pack of bikers when he and his family were out for a Sunday drive.
Cruz was on a bike that cut off Lien’s Range Rover and slowed down in front of him as other bikers circled the vehicle as the horror show initially unfolded in Harlem, police said Alexian Lien and his wife

He was rear-ended by Lien around 1:30 p.m., sparking a half-hour confrontation that forced the driver over to the side of the road, where other bikers slashed the father’s tires and one enraged rider opened the driver’s door and tried to pull him out of the SUV, sources said.
Law enforcement sources said Cruz’ erratic driving sparked the melee.
Cruz was briefly hospitalized and released for minor injuries, including lower back pain, authorities said.
He remained at the scene and is not believed to be among 20 to 30 bikers who followed the family up the West Side Highway onto West 178th Street and St. Nicholas Avenue in Washington Heights. That’s where the Range Rover came to a stop because its slashed tires went flat.

At least two bikers smashed the windows, dragged the father out, punched him and slashed him in the face and chest, sources said.

Police released a photo Tuesday morning of two suspects in the assault and slashing, which sent the father to the hospital for stitches on his face and chest. Lien, who also suffered two black eyes, was treated and released.
Video from a camera on one of the biker’s helmets shows a man with a Guyana sticker on the back of his blue bike watching as another biker smashed Lien’s window with his helmet. It also captured a rider who has a black and white spider’s web pattern on the tail pipe jumping off and pummeling the SUV.
The footage stops before Lien is dragged out of the car, beaten and slashed but cops are looking for those two riders who appeared to be part of the mob that attacked the victim in front of his horrified wife and two-year-old daughter, sources said.