Quote Originally Posted by generalmeow View Post
That's not my problem. You don't make points very well.

if I'm defending my family from bad guys, I will 100% be trying to kill them. You said nobody defending their family is trying to kill anyone. You are wrong, as usual.
Semantics gentlemen...

Anyway, to answer the "15 round enough" question; the video cuts off right before the group pulls him out of the car. How many people actively were involved with the beating of the driver? I'm willing to bet it was over three.