NYC SUV driver attacked by Group of Motorcycle Riders

[merl]

Then by your own definition of "Ok" its not ok to shoot somebody in self defense, right?

No it isn't. There are cases where it is justified, cases where it is necessary and even cases where society is better off for the action but that doesn't make it OK to harm someone.

[waxthis]

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[Jmetz]

all that riding in those videos and I didnt see any cops. is it me? or were they given free run of the city?

I have ridden with MANY PATCHED CLUB MEMBERS, individually and with clubs and I have never seen the disrespect or thug behavior that I see in these videos. I kept rooting for the asphalt. Is it wrong of me that I kept hoping for rice all over the road?
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I have seen some video where they passed several cops while riding all chaotic and the cops did nothing. You probably rode with real bikers, while I ride sportbikes, sportbike gangs are usually a bunch of douchebags that watched biker boys and decided to imitate the movie.

[Bailey Guns]

No it isn't. There are cases where it is justified, cases where it is necessary and even cases where society is better off for the action but that doesn't make it OK to harm someone.

You have GOT to be shittin' me. That makes no sense in moral or practical terms. What's the difference between justified, necessary or OK?

[merl]

Probably a quibble on definition. I see OK as something I wouldn't second guess, no grey area to it.

[TFOGGER]

You have GOT to be shittin' me. That makes no sense in moral or practical terms. What's the difference between justified, necessary or OK?

Justified would mean legal in the eyes of the law, necessary would mean required to save life and limb, ok would mean you're happy with the way things worked out. I could see where I might be justified in using violence, and it might be necessary, but I wouldn't be ok with it(or at least the circustances that led to it, if I could somehow have avoided the necessity).

[Aloha_Shooter]

No it isn't. There are cases where it is justified, cases where it is necessary and even cases where society is better off for the action but that doesn't make it OK to harm someone.

Someone translate this please. Maybe it would make more sense after a fifth of Glenlivet?

[ChunkyMonkey]

[ruthabagah]

Polarizing discussion isn't it?

[davsel]

For the record, I'm OK with running over all the little bastards.