NYC SUV driver attacked by Group of Motorcycle Riders

[cofi]

Meanwhile the FBI is more concerned with this... http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/2/47...ndicted-in-new

That deserves its own thread

[Joe_K]

Talked this over with the wife and we both were of the opinion that given only the film evidence from the helmet cam, if it was our family in the RR, we would have attempted to drive away as fast and far away from these idiotic criminals and that before getting boxed in would have u turned and gone back the wrong way on the freeway, 911 dispatch on speaker, handguns at the ready. Also a cow catcher would definitley improve ones chances of escape, sigh... I miss my 6x6 MRAP with mine roller and M240 up top


Sent from my PRC 117A in my Batmobile disguised as a sedan.

[Hound]

The bike brake-checked the RR. The other cyclists then swarmed the RR at which point the RR broke through the crowd, hitting other bikes and riders. Barring more evidence, I'm seeing as much of a case for self-defense as hit-and-run. As davsel said, you're making a few assumptions.

There are no assumptions. The RR hit people...twice. He left the scene. That is hit and run. You are both assuming I am against the RR driver. Read what I said again. If you or anybody here shoot somebody we all know we would be arrested and then after the fact, the courts (even if that is just the DA) make a determination of self defense or in this case bring charges of 'hit and run'. He should have been arrested for the hit and run, then cleared if that was warranted. The bikers, they too should be arrested, not run over like some on here think is "OK". Wow, some on here seem to forget America is a land of laws. Not judge Dredd, I saw a video...kill'em all!! If you hurt somebody, like running over them, the law gets to check what was going on. There are a lot of people out there that think anybody carrying a gun should be run over, thrown in jail, hell shot with their own gun. That is not "OK" either. NONE of us saw how this started nor can we really see what was happening in that mob. I gurantee that if somebody hurt a fellow gun owner in one of our rally's we would come together around the person or car. I doubt we would be looking friendly and I can see the exact same story being said about us. "I was surrounded by gun owners... You know they were armed!!! I ran them over to save my wife and kids." All I have said is I don't know the whole story and both sides look like they made mistakes in judgment.

[Great-Kazoo]

So, how about that Zimmerman trial ?

[mrghost]

YES, because he is Asian! and we know how Asian drives, dont we?

Relatively admirably when in a Range Rover and their family is threatened.

[mrghost]

I watched the video yesterday.... I think the Range rover guy is at fault. There is supposedly more to this video since a lot of the riders were wearing go pros and one or more guy filmed the beginning of the incident when the RR guy rolled down his window and told the group that he called the cops on them as they were passing him.... Yeah: really smart move! Then he clipped one bike... Even smarter move. Imagine your reaction if the same guy parked his RR in the middle of a shooting range, rolled down his window and told you he just called the cop on you because he does not like what you are doing (or worse: he called Bloomberg on you!)...

I was expecting the sarcasm emoticon or similar at the end of this, but no dice. *baffled*

[mrghost]

Makes me think of the people with the attitude (as a pedestrian) of, "I've got the right of way. Hit me and I'll sue your ass off!" I don't know how many times I've heard people say something similar, but I always remember how stupid I think the person speaking must be to think that way. I have to wonder which option the paralyzed guy would take in hind sight. Sue from a wheel chair, or live the rest of his life normally?

Some people around the world are making that sorta thing their career:

[Gman]

Could be a very short "career".

[th3w01f]

I gurantee that if somebody hurt a fellow gun owner in one of our rally's we would come together around the person or car. I doubt we would be looking friendly and I can see the exact same story being said about us. "I was surrounded by gun owners... You know they were armed!!! I ran them over to save my wife and kids." All I have said is I don't know the whole story and both sides look like they made mistakes in judgment.

If someone I'm with (gun owner or not) chooses to step in front of a moving vehicle to try and make them stop and gets themselves run over the last thing I'm going to do is stand in front of that vehicle and try to keep them there. This is an area where the police excel at getting the job done, especially if you have it on video.

[Hound]

If someone I'm with (gun owner or not) chooses to step in front of a moving vehicle to try and make them stop and get's themselves run over the last thing I'm going to do is stand in front of that vehicle and try to keep them there. This is an area where the police excel at getting the job done, especially if you have it on video.

Wow, so if one of us is hit by somebody in a car, you would not help us out from under it, much less try to stop it from continuing to crush us..... as has been reported of the guy with a broken back? The guy that initially got hit only broke an arm and was in court today. The news reported the guy with a broken back was trying to pull him out when the RR guy floored it.....and apparently your a cop??? Were you just in another video and taking this personnally??? Nice to know you have any of our backs if we were hurt. Amazing.

BTW... The RR was already stopped.