Discount Tire...

[buckeye4rnr]

Well...sounds like they tried to make it right then. I think that's a good thing.

Yep, I completely agree. I wanted to update the thread with the positive end to the situation... I was pissed when this was all going down but Bill really did everything he could to make it right yesterday and I'm very grateful of that.

[streetglideok]

That's exactly the point. The only tool that should be used is one that will tighten to the correct torque. If the tech is in there playing Nascar with the impact gun, the vehicle owner is going to get into a fight with the poor person who tries to take the whhel off next when the studs break.

Then you may want to pick the fight with the car maker. They don't use hand tools to tighten things, though they will use torque wrenches or other torque measuring devices to verify. Impact guns only tighten as tight as you allow them. Whether you use steady twisting power, or short impact bursts, they tighten the same. There are plenty of ways to prevent over-torque using the impact gun. The guys that come in wanting their lug nuts taken off and put back on by hand are never the ones who do it themselves, and rarely willing to buck up and pay an increased labor charge for the increase in manual work. Trust me when I say in 20 years of assembly line work and auto repair work, I have never over-torqued a nut using a gun to install the fasteners.

[ZERO THEORY]

That's exactly the point. The only tool that should be used is one that will tighten to the correct torque. If the tech is in there playing Nascar with the impact gun, the vehicle owner is going to get into a fight with the poor person who tries to take the whhel off next when the studs break.

I would always zip in what amounted to controlled pairs until the moment the lug was seated against the wheel face. Then, lower the vehicle so that the assembly is just barely making contact with the floor (but all the weight is not placed) and use a torque wrench from there.

The only thing more annoying than trying to remove lugs from pit crew wannabes is trying to break loose an oil filter that some dickhead decided to He Man onto a vehicle. Nothing saps my will to live quicker than trying to wrestle with a filter when the band wrench doesn't have space to turn, the cap attachment won't work because some chassis section is beneath the filter, etc. Kill me.

[Gman]

I would always zip in what amounted to controlled pairs until the moment the lug was seated against the wheel face. Then, lower the vehicle so that the assembly is just barely making contact with the floor (but all the weight is not placed) and use a torque wrench from there.

That's the way they do it at the Discount Tire where I take my business.

[cofi]

Then you may want to pick the fight with the car maker. They don't use hand tools to tighten things, though they will use torque wrenches or other torque measuring devices to verify. Impact guns only tighten as tight as you allow them. Whether you use steady twisting power, or short impact bursts, they tighten the same. There are plenty of ways to prevent over-torque using the impact gun. The guys that come in wanting their lug nuts taken off and put back on by hand are never the ones who do it themselves, and rarely willing to buck up and pay an increased labor charge for the increase in manual work. Trust me when I say in 20 years of assembly line work and auto repair work, I have never over-torqued a nut using a gun to install the fasteners.

i always used these




never had a comeback main thing would be to thread the nut on by hand so you dont crossthread it

[hurley842002]

i always used these

First thing that came to mind when this convo got started.

[ben4372]

Then you may want to pick the fight with the car maker. They don't use hand tools to tighten things, though they will use torque wrenches or other torque measuring devices to verify. Impact guns only tighten as tight as you allow them. Whether you use steady twisting power, or short impact bursts, they tighten the same. There are plenty of ways to prevent over-torque using the impact gun. The guys that come in wanting their lug nuts taken off and put back on by hand are never the ones who do it themselves, and rarely willing to buck up and pay an increased labor charge for the increase in manual work. Trust me when I say in 20 years of assembly line work and auto repair work, I have never over-torqued a nut using a gun to install the fasteners.

I hated people that demanded hand on and off. If they want hand work, they should have gone to an Amish mechanic.

[tmleadr03]

I barely use power tools. I have an electric impact I use for wheels and a couple of small makita screw guns I use for other stuff. Except for wheels it gets broken free by hand and final tightening is hand. Though actually I torque wrench every wheel. My air ratchet collects dust in my tool box. Many times I have found out more about the car and the previous person who worked on it then you could imagine by doing it all by hand.

[Irving]

Do they not make an air gun with torque settings? Seems like it'd be a great tool.

[Jer]

I hated people that demanded hand on and off. If they want hand work, they should have gone to an Amish mechanic.

Service requests from for someone who is performing a service for a paying customer. Some would say that the word 'hate' would indicate a sense of entitlement.