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    Default Ahhh, the 2013 Blue Book is here

    Lets see, short one for statewide this year.

    Amendment 66, Hell No.
    That is a tremendous increase and a bit too much for me to buy a "for the children" line. Doubly so since the SVVSD just got their mil levy last year.
    Proposition AA, leaning No.
    This again is a huge tax with schools getting the short end of the stick. This was sold to voters as "tax it for the schools" but 15% of the wholesale cost goes to schools and 15% of the retail cost to the general fund. I hope people notice the difference between wholesale & retail prices. The retail % is marked 10% but will increase to 15% since it is allowed to without another vote. The total tax effect on retail would be >30% depending on wholesale vs retail. Don't forget local sales tax on top of that.
    This is one of those deals where it doesn't affect me but just smells fishy.
    Edit: Even better, only 40mil max goes to schools. Don't think so, this isn't what the voters asked forr when pot was legalized. Try again next session.
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    I'm with you on Amendment 66 ... no effin' way ... but I'm leaning yes on AA because we were sold a bill of goods that legal MJ was going to be our economic savior so I say hit the potheads with as much taxes as the hippies will bear. But to be honest I really don't care one way or the other about AA ... but 66 is bullshit.
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    64 was titled "Regulate Marijuana like Alcohol", so unless you wanna pay $42 for a six pack of beer, punitive taxes on MJ are a bad precedent. I really don't care, as I drink about 6 beers a year, but I'm skeptical that this is good governance. As for 66, NON, BFN!
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    Anything that raises taxes = no from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    Anything that raises taxes = no from me.
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklabel View Post
    This.
    That gets my vote too.
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    66 = HELL NO

    AA = Why increase the taxes on this to drive the sale of it back into the black market? My vote on this is NO.

    Do these guys not understand that they can increase tax income by simply spending less on useless crap? Reducing wasteful spending should be the top priority instead of continuing to run the budget like a rental and wondering why there isn't enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    Anything that raises taxes = no from me.
    That's how I've always voted: taxes up? = vote no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hatidua View Post
    That's how I've always voted: taxes up? = vote no.
    The pot tax thing I could vote for if they had done what voters asked for. There was already a majority of the state that said "legalize and tax it to fund schools." Given it doesn't affect me and the people it would affect already said go ahead, I could support that. Problem is, that isn't what the bill does. It instead sends a token amount to schools and a big increase to the general fund for lawmakers to play with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merl View Post
    The pot tax thing I could vote for if they had done what voters asked for. There was already a majority of the state that said "legalize and tax it to fund schools." Given it doesn't affect me and the people it would affect already said go ahead, I could support that. Problem is, that isn't what the bill does. It instead sends a token amount to schools and a big increase to the general fund for lawmakers to play with.
    I agree, if they used the pot tax to lower the rest of our taxes (what a novel concept) i would be for it. Also who in their right mind would tax pot that much when there is already a big under ground market for it? It will just stay under ground and that market will get bigger.

    Big F'ing NO on both of them.

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