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    Default Ahhh, the 2013 Blue Book is here

    Lets see, short one for statewide this year.

    Amendment 66, Hell No.
    That is a tremendous increase and a bit too much for me to buy a "for the children" line. Doubly so since the SVVSD just got their mil levy last year.
    Proposition AA, leaning No.
    This again is a huge tax with schools getting the short end of the stick. This was sold to voters as "tax it for the schools" but 15% of the wholesale cost goes to schools and 15% of the retail cost to the general fund. I hope people notice the difference between wholesale & retail prices. The retail % is marked 10% but will increase to 15% since it is allowed to without another vote. The total tax effect on retail would be >30% depending on wholesale vs retail. Don't forget local sales tax on top of that.
    This is one of those deals where it doesn't affect me but just smells fishy.
    Edit: Even better, only 40mil max goes to schools. Don't think so, this isn't what the voters asked forr when pot was legalized. Try again next session.
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    I'm with you on Amendment 66 ... no effin' way ... but I'm leaning yes on AA because we were sold a bill of goods that legal MJ was going to be our economic savior so I say hit the potheads with as much taxes as the hippies will bear. But to be honest I really don't care one way or the other about AA ... but 66 is bullshit.
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    64 was titled "Regulate Marijuana like Alcohol", so unless you wanna pay $42 for a six pack of beer, punitive taxes on MJ are a bad precedent. I really don't care, as I drink about 6 beers a year, but I'm skeptical that this is good governance. As for 66, NON, BFN!
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    Anything that raises taxes = no from me.

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    It's a shell game...witness what was done with lottery proceeds. 50% go to the schools, so if you have $100 from lottery sales $50 of that goes to the schools...and $50 from the general fund that was going to the schools goes back to the general fund...

    I don't see AA being any different.

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    Amendment 66? Or Order 66?

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    Got my blue book yesterday. Hell no on both. I'm all for taxing MJ like alcohol but state govt needs to learn to live on what it is getting NOW instead of continually trying to find ways around TABOR so they can keep spending money on stupid junk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    Anything that raises taxes = no from me.
    This.

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    Has anyone found links to organizations opposing Amendment 66? I'd like to put a sign in my yard to piss off my libtard neighbors.


    EDIT: These are the two organizations that I believe are the biggest opposition to Amd66 ... but I don't see anything about yard signs on their sites.


    http://www.coforrealedreform.com
    http://www.kidsnotpawns.org


    I've emailed both and will post whatever response I get here.
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    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
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    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Has anyone found links to organizations opposing Amendment 66? I'd like to put a sign in my yard to piss off my libtard neighbors.
    Same here, will paint one myself if I have to. (that's what I'm expecting to have to do)

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