Can we sell 20rd mags to someone out of state?

[Celt]

I've heard conflicting information.

[sniper7]

What was that program in the military? Don't ask don't tell...something like that....

[merl]

By my reading of the law, no.


http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/cli...e=1224_enr.pdf

18-12-302. Large-capacity magazines prohibited - penalties - exceptions.
(1) (a) EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED IN THIS SECTION,ON AND AFTER JULY 1, 2013,A PERSON WHO SELLS,TRANSFERS,OR POSSESSES A LARGE-CAPACITY MAGAZINE COMMITS A CLASS 2MISDEMEANOR.

Section 1 defines a magazine.
Section 2 explains who may possess a mag.
Section 3 is exemptions, this is where out of state would apply.

(3) THE OFFENSE DESCRIBED IN SUBSECTION (1)OF THIS SECTION SHALL NOT APPLY TO:

(a) AN ENTITY,OR ANY EMPLOYEE THEREOF ENGAGED IN HIS OR HER EMPLOYMENT DUTIES,THAT MANUFACTURES LARGE-CAPACITY MAGAZINES WITHIN COLORADO EXCLUSIVELY FOR TRANSFER TO,OR ANY LICENSED GUN DEALER,AS DEFINED IN SECTION 12-26.1-106 (6), C.R.S.,OR ANY EMPLOYEE THEREOF ENGAGED IN HIS OR HER OFFICIAL EMPLOYMENT DUTIES,THAT SELLS LARGE-CAPACITY MAGAZINES EXCLUSIVELY TO:

(I) A BRANCH OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES;
(II) A DEPARTMENT,AGENCY,OR POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE OF COLORADO,OR OF ANY OTHER STATE,OR OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT;
(III) A FIREARMS RETAILER FOR THE PURPOSE OF FIREARMS SALES CONDUCTED OUTSIDE THE STATE;
(IV) A FOREIGN NATIONAL GOVERNMENT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR SUCH TRANSFERS BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT;OR
(V) AN OUT-OF-STATE TRANSFEREE WHO MAY LEGALLY POSSESS A LARGE-CAPACITY MAGAZINE;OR

(b) AN EMPLOYEE OF ANY OF THE FOLLOWING AGENCIES WHO BEARS A FIREARM IN THE COURSE OF HIS OR HER OFFICIAL DUTIES:

(I) A BRANCH OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES;OR
(II) A DEPARTMENT,AGENCY,OR POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE OF COLORADO,OR OF ANY OTHER STATE,OR OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT;OR

(c) A PERSON WHO POSSESSES THE MAGAZINE FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF TRANSPORTING THE MAGAZINE TO AN OUT-OF-STATE ENTITY ON BEHALF OF A MANUFACTURER OF LARGE-CAPACITY MAGAZINES WITHIN COLORADO.

So 3.a doesnt apply to private citizens, 3.b does not apply to private citizens, and 3.c applies to USPS/UPS/FEDEX/etc. I find it amusing that 3C does not apply when a "licensed gun dealer" ships a magazine, only from manufacturers.

A private citizen of Colorado may not transfer a magazine with >15 round capacity to anybody.
Only companies and their employees that are licensed gun dealers or magazine manufacturers may transfer magazines and only then to a select class of destinations.

[crays]

If you're hell-bent on getting rid of them, drop them off at my house, and I will make sure they are disposed of properly.

[Zundfolge]

Wow, that's some poorly written shit right there.


Law that poorly written undermines the entire concept of "The Law".

[clark]

Wow, that's some poorly written shit right there.


Law that poorly written undermines the entire concept of "The Law".

Well consider the source....bunch of friking idiots

[BlasterBob]

18-12-302. Large-capacity magazines prohibited - penalties - exceptions.
(1) (a) EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED IN THIS SECTION,ON AND AFTER JULY 1, 2013,A PERSON WHO SELLS,TRANSFERS,OR POSSESSES A LARGE-CAPACITY MAGAZINE COMMITS A CLASS 2MISDEMEANOR.

Very strange wording of the new law and I cannot see how the State of Colorado could possibly police these sales when the sales are actually being made in a State where the sales and transfer of these magazines are still legal.???

[hatidua]

I cannot see how the State of Colorado could possibly police these sales when the sales are actually being made in a State where the sales and transfer of these magazines are still legal.???

Therein lies the thorn in the side of the legislators that they would prefer not to think about.

[Rabid]

18-12-302. Large-capacity magazines prohibited - penalties - exceptions.
(1) (a) EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED IN THIS SECTION,ON AND AFTER JULY 1, 2013,A PERSON WHO SELLS,TRANSFERS,OR POSSESSES A LARGE-CAPACITY MAGAZINE COMMITS A CLASS 2MISDEMEANOR.

Very strange wording of the new law and I cannot see how the State of Colorado could possibly police these sales when the sales are actually being made in a State where the sales and transfer of these magazines are still legal.???

Believe it or not they can still enforce a law even if it was broken out of state.

Extraterritorial jurisdiction in international law:
Because each government is supreme, it can enact whatever statutes it wishes. Thus, State A would have the power to make a law which, for example, made it an offence to smoke in the streets of State B, a neighbouring state. State A could employ officers and equip them with cameras. These officers could then collect evidence in State B and, when its citizens returned home, State A could prosecute them for breach of the law. But State A's law could not be directly effective in State B because that would make State B less than sovereign. Similarly, State A could not seek the extradition of its own citizens from State B unless State B was formally to consent (usually through the negotiation of a treaty including the particular offence).

So with the wording of the law it is illegal to sell it even out of state. What evidence would the have if you did, none but you would still be breaking the law.

[Great-Kazoo]

Based on dealing with out of state LOCAL and FEDERAL LE's. 99% in your favor no one will say shit, arrest, prosecute or any other legal action against you and the buyer. This is for magazines NOT A FIREARM.
Want to really make out, without fear of arrest ? Steal a credit card, binge with purchases of $50 or less. Rack up $5 K and see what the result is.