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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklabel View Post
    Exactly. All that this does is reinforce the need for smaller government.
    If people were as excited about government sustainability as they were about environmental sustainability, we'd be in a much better place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XC700116 View Post
    All of this shit drives me absolutely insane, WHY have we let the .gov take over so much of our commerce and lives in general that a govt shutdown effects anything in day to day life? I know I'm preaching to the choir, but the fact that they have control like this is crazy.
    They have control, only because so many allow themselves to be dependent.

    Many would never have believed, too many still don't.

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    The process that's getting held up is more for consumer protection than anything. I don't see it as a function of big government. It happens in most industries (including the meat industry that we're currently encountering the same scenarios) where you can't put misleading shit on a label that is going into nationwide commerce.

    In the meat industry, if you make a claim like "All Natural" or "Organic", you have to send the label in to Washington for approval. There are companies out there that want to put some serious bullshit on a label so people will want to buy their product. If you're not making a claim on the label, the in-house USDA inspector can approve the label. The label approval process in DC is considered "non-essential" so we currently have customers that want a new product and the label hasn't been approved, so we can't make their product.

    These things aren't completely detrimental to businesses, but if the the .gov shutdown caused the USDA-Food Safety and Inspection Service to close even for a day, it would create havoc in the food supply. As long as the gov allows beer making companies to continue to do what they do during the shutdown, we'll all be safe.

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    why do they have so much control...

    The slow con, and chipping away at things slowly and deliberately since the 1950's
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem. --TJ

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    I don't understand. If they are shut down, no one is there to enforce the law. Ergo, there is no such law, commerce can continue as it would, minus the steps required by the federal government. You can't be "shut down" if you still wield the power to force people to adhere to the standards that you can't facilitate.

    This whole "shut down" makes zero sense to me.
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