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    Default Meanwhile California is getting even worse laws...

    I hate to rain on our parade but the tide is turning the other way in California. The legislature passed some really tough laws today. They haven't been signed by Governor Brown but even if he vetoes them the dems have the 2/3 vote to override it.

    SB374 will ban the sale of center fire rifles capable of accepting a "feeding device" of more than 10 rounds. The ban on sales is accompanied by REGISTRATION for existing owners. The terms "capable" and "feeding device" are especially critical because it means that if somebody, somewhere makes a magazine or even a tube that rifle makes the list. It also specifically mentions devices removable by a tool so fixed magazine rifles are done along with the bullet button and similar devices invented to "create a loophole" in their previous poorly conceived laws.

    They're also looking at laws to flat out ban magazines over 10 rounds regardless of when or how they were obtained, expanding their "Handgun Safety Certificate" to long guns, adding offenses that would prohibit somebody from owning firearms, and making unsafe (guess who will determine what that means) storage of firearms an offense.

    There's also the usual bunch of proposals to restrict ammo, go after magazines through other avenues, and attacks on the handgun roster. It's hard to say if they'll get any traction this time around but you never know.

    Right now it's late and information on some of those hasn't been obtained yet. I may or may not update this as needed but I have a feeling some of you will beat me to it.

    The point is we shouldn't compromise on ANY restriction. This is what it leads to. Keep up those recalls. Stay involved in whatever capacity you can.
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    We did get lots of support for our recall election.
    We should stand with all 2A citizens from all 50 states.

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    This is f*cking disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrena View Post
    We did get lots of support for our recall election.
    We should stand with all 2A citizens from all 50 states.
    I agree. I've never understood why folks were OK with NY and CA rules justifying "move to a free state" when the anti's keep using these states and now us as proving grounds and templates for what they want nationwide. Let a few go, and eventually they all will fall. Even Texas, even Arizona. Especially after some sort of amnesty deal.

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    Remind me again why the fuck anyone wants to live in California. Sure its pretty in many parts but the cost of living is absolutely obscene, the taxes are ridiculous and you have no freedoms. It's like you move there and you have to hand them your brain so you can't make an informed decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kawiracer14 View Post
    Remind me again why the fuck anyone wants to live in California. Sure its pretty in many parts but the cost of living is absolutely obscene, the taxes are ridiculous and you have no freedoms. It's like you move there and you have to hand them your brain so you can't make an informed decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    I agree. I've never understood why folks were OK with NY and CA rules justifying "move to a free state" when the anti's keep using these states and now us as proving grounds and templates for what they want nationwide. Let a few go, and eventually they all will fall. Even Texas, even Arizona. Especially after some sort of amnesty deal.
    Maybe it's because they recognize the impossibility of overturning that much stupidity? CA and NY have been charging towards tyranny for decades and the general populace in both has just begged for more. Why continue living in such an oppressive environment, handing over your tax dollars to pay for your virtual prison? Frankly, Texas is close to going purple right now. They need more freedom minded individuals to stem the tide there.

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    Any gun control measure, no matter how severe, that passes in one state can be seen as an option by the gun-control proponents in this state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kawiracer14 View Post
    Remind me again why the fuck anyone wants to live in California. Sure its pretty in many parts but the cost of living is absolutely obscene, the taxes are ridiculous and you have no freedoms. It's like you move there and you have to hand them your brain so you can't make an informed decision.
    Funny but before yesterday I would have said we were on the same path. Is Colorado not worth saving? Then why isn't California? In all of it travels I can think of only one geographic location in this country I'd rater live in and that's Southern California. The only thing keeping me from moving there are the things you mentioned but we aren't that far removed from going down that same path.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    Funny but before yesterday I would have said we were on the same path. Is Colorado not worth saving? Then why isn't California?
    I would agree that Colorado is on the same path as California, but they're WAY WAY WAY farther down that path then we are.

    I don't think its a matter of California not being worth saving, I think its more a matter of saving California looks to be pretty much impossible. However here in Colorado since we're not as far down that path as CA, it seems like it might still be possible to save Colorado.

    I'm not sure what it would take to save California, I don't think there are enough pro-liberty people still living there to mobilize to reverse the foolishness that has gone down there. But there ARE enough pro-liberty people HERE ... if we could just get them off their butts and working toward liberty.
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