What kind of sick depraved world do we live in where bullies like this exist?

[sniper7]

I know right? I want to tell my daughter she is welcome to be a terrible person, but she damn well better be intelligent and articulate in her rude and threatening behavior

I wasn't condoning the behavior at all. Just stating the grammar bothers me and it is a piece of the puzzle that is part of the overall problem.

[generalmeow]

I thought this thread was going to be about Jim.

[sniper7]

or Jim picking on Ronin! I miss those threads

[Great-Kazoo]

or Jim picking on Ronin! I miss those threads

WINTER'S COMING it's not picking on someone,merely disagreeing. Unless you're on of the flag burners here. Then All bets are off, same for the gloves.

[Great-Kazoo]

I thought this thread was going to be about Jim.

If you think i'm a bully, you've lived a very sheltered life.

[Ronin13]

If you think you're going to stop this kind of stuff, Ronin, you're further gone than I thought.

Not stop, I'm not naive. But the whole motivating factor for anyone doing the right thing is to, at a minimum, make some kind of a difference. If I could help my own children not be victims of bullying, and in turn they help a few of their peers to not be bullied, I'll put a mark in the win category.

To address Blacklabel's post about "war on bullying" and how "parents/kids can do more to prevent it," I can't help but come to the conclusion that you have very little experience in the world of bullying. If I'm wrong, please correct me, but I was bullied in school, and the guy's parents were d-bags, so nothing could be done on that end. As far as just "Standing up to the bully" that could have brought on more trouble as the kid (learned this later) was an absolute psycho and probably would have killed me had I stood up to him. Not to mention the fact that our "kinder, gentler" society does not allow any school violence of any kind- so sure, tell your kid the kick the snot out of the bully, and watch as they get punished too. Besides, I don't want to sound like a pacifist here, but I don't think giving a bully a beating will really help with some kids these days- it might lead to more, harsher, retaliatory action against the victim.

ETA: Jim's not a bully, I never considered him one, and, unless something changes, I don't think he'll ever be one- unless it's concerning nynco or someone like that. I like how Jim provides a different perspective, it add color to the conversation.

[Great-Kazoo]

Not stop, I'm not naive. But the whole motivating factor for anyone doing the right thing is to, at a minimum, make some kind of a difference. If I could help my own children not be victims of bullying, and in turn they help a few of their peers to not be bullied, I'll put a mark in the win category.

To address Blacklabel's post about "war on bullying" and how "parents/kids can do more to prevent it," I can't help but come to the conclusion that you have very little experience in the world of bullying. If I'm wrong, please correct me, but I was bullied in school, and the guy's parents were d-bags, so nothing could be done on that end. As far as just "Standing up to the bully" that could have brought on more trouble as the kid (learned this later) was an absolute psycho and probably would have killed me had I stood up to him. Not to mention the fact that our "kinder, gentler" society does not allow any school violence of any kind- so sure, tell your kid the kick the snot out of the bully, and watch as they get punished too. Besides, I don't want to sound like a pacifist here, but I don't think giving a bully a beating will really help with some kids these days- it might lead to more, harsher, retaliatory action against the victim.

When you drag them off a bus, cause they're picking on some downs syndrome kid,and put the boot to them, it get a message across, real fast. Especially when their "associates" are standing with their thumb up their ass, trying to figure out if they should jump in, or run. OOPS

[Squeeze]

When you drag them off a bus, cause they're picking on some downs syndrome kid,and put the boot to them, it get a message across, real fast. Especially when their "associates" are standing with their thumb up their ass, trying to figure out if they should jump in, or run. OOPS

^^^This. Many years ago, had a kid who was 4 years older bullying my kid at an "after school" care center. I had a meeting with turd-child's parents, school director and we tried to hash it out like adults. Parents of turd-child refused to believe their kid was acting in this manner. I made a clear & present promise to the father of what my future action(s) would be if his perfect little child didn't knock it the f*** off. It didn't go so well after that. Ended up taking my child out of that place due to an "unfavorable" letter I received from the director 2 days later. However, problem was solved.

Parents need to do the best they can to try and stay as involved as possible in their child's life. Be realistic and be aware. As it was mentioned in a previous post, children are using techonology to dispense their evil, vile natured ways onto others. I just find it humorous and sad at the same time how everybody wants to stay all "happy, kind & gentle" with every situation because they are afraid to hurt someone's fragile sensibilities. Screw that. Cut to the chase, tell it like it is, be done with it. The poor girl in this article and her parents are in my thoughts and prayers. I hope they find some resolution to this. IMO, it all falls back on the parents.