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    Default Last Remaining Lead Smelter In The USA Closing After 120 Years

    Last Remaining Lead Smelter In The USA Closing After 120 Years

    I am surprised I didn't see this on the forum yet. (yes I searched unless someone named their title badly)

    Think it is going to change anything for ammo prices?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    Think it is going to change anything for ammo prices?
    I predict the ammo prices will not make a dramatic decline.

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    What are the standard Chinese military cartridges these days? I might have to get something chambered in one of those so I'll have ammo to shoot.
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    So, is the EPA going to push all remaining industry out of the U.S.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Pook View Post
    So, is the EPA going to push all remaining industry out of the U.S.?
    Have to grow their empire somehow. Looking back at history and at some other countries the EPA was/is needed to stop the worst offenses (do a search for lead smelting in MX). They did that and now the forests die due to beetles instead of H2SO4.
    Trouble is these agencies have a mindset that they have to keep growing and regulating every little minutia. How do we get them to switch over to maintenance and out of expansion mode?

    Don't worry about lead supply for bullets until they start talking about tariffs on imports to offset the "hidden costs."

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    Lead remediation:

    http://www.art-engineering.com/Proje...hip/Photos.htm

    Talks about lead being separated from dirt / targets and being transported for recycling. I'm guessing we won't have a shortage of lead for a while, assuming this occurs somewhat commonly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Pook View Post
    So, is the EPA going to push all remaining industry out of the U.S.?
    Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Pook View Post
    So, is the EPA going to push all remaining industry out of the U.S.?
    Quote Originally Posted by spqrzilla View Post
    Yes.
    Like merl said - they don't know when to stop. Look for them on your doorstep when one of your neighbors sees you melting lead in your garage for your very small bullet casting operation.

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    My questions would be.....

    1. How are lead alternative will substitute the weight of the bullet?
    2. Would Pb substitute be cheaper than Pb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrena View Post
    My questions would be.....

    1. How are lead alternative will substitute the weight of the bullet?
    2. Would Pb substitute be cheaper than Pb?
    I think zinc is the only cheap substitute and it is a third the weight of lead. Even thought zinc is a little cheaper then lead you would need more of it for the same bullet weight making it more expensive. If there was a cheap substitute for lead we would be using it by now.

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