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    Thats a really interesting article... the only thing that would make it more relevant to me or more interesting would be some way of correlating population levels to death levels. Like 100K deaths in the Revolutionary war seems small but compared to the over all population levels of the time, it was huge. Same thing with the Aztecs and others. Figuring out how to show that scale would be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tor Larson View Post
    Don't like the gun deaths and suicides yearly totals. Very misleading. Think they have suicides by gun in that total of gun deaths. Not really gun violence, just a suicide. Fool would have killed himself some other way. Can't blame the gun... Even though gun haters try.
    That was my first thought when I saw lined up (very close numbers) gun deaths, auto deaths, suicides. Many of those suicides are also in those previous two. It is the statistic cited though. It never has suicides pulled out and is called "unintentional gun deaths" so I give it a pass in this context.

    The economist article where they keep hammering terror deaths vs drunk driving deaths vs gun deaths (to show how much we overreacted to terrorism and gave away our freedoms for nothing) is different. When only citing 3 categories of deaths and citing them over & over you have an agenda if one of them is misleading. If only they didn't have decent news on other issues.

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    Im surprised the starvation of the Ukraine by stalin was left out. Much higher than the holocaust, yet since there is limited documentation, many know nothing about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merl View Post
    That was my first thought when I saw lined up (very close numbers) gun deaths, auto deaths, suicides. Many of those suicides are also in those previous two. It is the statistic cited though. It never has suicides pulled out and is called "unintentional gun deaths" so I give it a pass in this context.

    The economist article where they keep hammering terror deaths vs drunk driving deaths vs gun deaths (to show how much we overreacted to terrorism and gave away our freedoms for nothing) is different. When only citing 3 categories of deaths and citing them over & over you have an agenda if one of them is misleading. If only they didn't have decent news on other issues.
    Yeah, my I thought about how gun deaths and suicides were pretty close to each other was pretty telling. I do have to say, that looking at ratios though, I forgot how bad the black death was.

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    Anyone else have their anti-virus software trip when clicking that link?
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
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    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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