Scarcity of components

[jerrymrc]

Experienced loaders only:

Hell, if you know what your doing you can even use small pistol primers in an AR. Appropriate loading and appropriate gun......

Needless to say, I'm not feeling the heat! But the panic buying annoys me. All told, since the election I might have added 5% to my powder "stock", and bought no primers. But, you have to consider.... I have always had a decent stock, and not because I'm worried about gov't takeover or there not being any for x years or stupid NRA/public rumors. No, I have always had decent stock because I shoot a lot. So.. there you have it. I still have primers that I got from a guy who purchased them during the LAST stupid rumor "they are going to make primers have a shelf life" scare. Forget... late 80's or early 90's.

FYI, the same stupid rumor is recirculating now. Wonder why it's hard to get primers? Many of our fellow shooters are, well... morons. I went to wally today to try to get one box of 9mm... my press is down due to a retrofit backorder. No, they don't have any every time I go in. I overhear that they got something like 20 cases in (!!) and some guy comes in and buys 14 CASES, another buys 2. This is why there is no inventory. The 5% of our fellow shooters that are so gullible and mentally deficient that they can't figure out the gubbament isn't coming to their doorstep next week drop every single penny into purchases that they are probably literally putting under floorboards. The normal shooting community suffers as a result.

I will agree. I have bought a couple K of wolf primers to try and picked up some bullets from a supplier that still has good prices. I have been set on brass and powder for some time. Last .308 brass was $80 per K for processed and the last .223 was $65 for 3K of range brass.

I have surplus from 4-10 years ago put away. I would like to pick up a few molds but they always seem to be out of stock. Have everything I need to cast but a few molds.

Many threads on many boards about new guys getting into reloading. This is a good thing but there are some that buy everything in sight if they see it.

"Quote"I don't get the whole 'gotta be mil spec' primer lust bit. No one is using sealant or crimping their primers, so why all the bother?"Quote"

I do not know about the "gotta be a mil spec primer" but I do have some and I do have ammo that is sealed. I load ammo for the short term and the long term. Long term ammo get's sealed on the neck and primer. Some of us old guys remember.

[a77ssii]

Agreed, 100%. I figure out how much I need, how much I have and buy just a little more but never cases of stuff and that's now what's screwing me since I don't stockpile. I have no clue what the mil spec thing is about but I seal EVERY case, some of my stuff may get fired in 2 days of 2 years. I never know so I do the full meal deal on all of them.

[cysoto]

I've called some of the shops and asked them if they would set 1000 or 5000 aside for me if I gave them a CC# since it's a 2 hour drive drive down to some of the shops and I don't want to drop $60 in diesel to be told "we just sold our last box" and they refused to do it.

I can understand how you feel but we have to put ourselves in their shoes for a minute. I am not saying that you would do this but there are people out there that, after giving them the CC number, they won't show up to pick up the merchandise. This puts the business owner in a position of disadvantage since they can't make you pay for the order you placed. Even if they charge the credit card, the card holder can dispute the charges with their company.

[Fal Grunt]

I'll admit things are scarce, but you just have to look hard. I just bought 12k 55gr FMJBT for .07 a piece. Powder... still looking for more. Primers... those are getting hard to find.

-myers

[a77ssii]

Cysoto, the way I handle it is like this. "I see you have a website, do you ship? Yes. OK, I'm headed your way and I'll be there in about 2 hours can you pull XXXX off the shelf for me. If for some odd reason I don't make it can you just ship it to me? Yes, but we won't charge it to your CC and hold it." Maybe I'm just dense but if they ship items they can surely charge it and let me pick it up. Cabelas, Bass Pro and Midway will allow you to place an order either over the phone or online then pick it up at their store.

[gnihcraes]

MSNBC Article on this very subject...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29945269/

[tmckay2]

sorry to bring this thread from the dead, but a new reloader has some questions and comments. first of all, on the walmart having guys buy 14 cases and etc, i actually talked to a walmart guy about this. he said he will leave after his night shift, with the order set to arrive the next morning, and by 11 am everything is gone. this is the case for .223, .45 and 9mm the most. its nuts. i wish people would wake up. the problem is craziness fuels craziness. since a few people do this, then everyone has to to try to get their share as well, others who knows when youll find it again.

for me it really bites because i got into reloading to save money and have some fun, well im sure its fun but i almost don't even save any money anymore. the only place i can find large pistol primers for my .45 is on gunbroker where they are INSANELY high priced. plus, id like to buy powder and primers in stores since it won't cost you the high shipping fee. but ive literally called every sports/gun stores i can think of in the denver area and every single one says the same thing. even if they DO get a shipment of primers in, they're gone in minutes.

so my question is, how long do you really think this will last? should i just bite the bullet (no pun intended) and buy the crazy high priced primers? otherwise i don't think ill ever get to shoot. i bought 1000 .45 plated bullets for $110 or so, which wasn't too bad, but can't find primers anywhere but online (even powder is more or less the same). whats a guy to do?

[Pancho Villa]

I just bit the bullet and bought CCI primers for $0.075/primer at the gun show. No one seems to have primers (does anyone have a source?) and I wanted to get started already.

[theGinsue]

Holy sh!t! That's $75 for 1000 primers. I paid $30 for 1000 CCI primers just 4 months ago. I'll wait until the hysteria dies down.

[ryanek9freak]

I don't get the whole 'gotta be mil spec' primer lust bit. No one is using sealant or crimping their primers, so why all the bother? Buy, load and shoot what you have.

The CCI Nato primers have a harder cup, to prevent slam fires in tactical guns that have a free floating firing pin. Have that happen to you one time and tell me if you'd want to use nothing else. It'll scare the white off you (if you are indeed white, lol). I had it happen to me ONCE on a worn out WASR, and I nearly wet my pants. Blew a portion of the colt carrier clean off, along with the upper dust cover.