Police Checkpoint Proceedures

[losttrail]

Holy cow the tinfoil is thick in this thread. 2 random pictures with no supporting context and everyone is talking shit about the people who protect you while you sleep. Yes, there are good and bad cops, all are human and make mistakes as we all do. The same people bitching about overweight cops are some of the same people that can't walk half a mile without stopping to catch their breath. Some of you need to spend less time armchair quarterbacking people who protect you and more time being productive.

Rant over for now

I think the issue is that we see an ever increasing 'militaristic' equipping of our local law enforcement units. There seems to be a trend over the past 20 years or so, to blur the line between the military and local law enforcement. Not just through equipment but also training, tactics and attitude.

The military attitude is much less "innocent until proven guilty" than our "civilian" laws portend.

While i believe that our local law enforcement agencies has just cause to up-gear, up-train and up-tactic due to the increasing capabilities of threats, I also believe that there is a very real 'Orwellian' threat facing the citizenry of the U.S.

[DavieD55]

I think the issue is that we see an ever increasing 'militaristic' equipping of our local law enforcement units. There seems to be a trend over the past 20 years or so, to blur the line between the military and local law enforcement. Not just through equipment but also training, tactics and attitude.

The military attitude is much less "innocent until proven guilty" than our "civilian" laws portend.

While i believe that our local law enforcement agencies has just cause to up-gear, up-train and up-tactic due to the increasing capabilities of threats, I also believe that there is a very real 'Orwellian' threat facing the citizenry of the U.S.

Oh yeah, the boogieman terrorists that will get us... As Jmaes Madison new long before we did...

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."

There is now a domestic threat that has been created which is anyone who does not bow to the agenda of the current administration.

[losttrail]

Oh yeah, the boogieman terrorists that will get us... As Jmaes Madison new long before we did...

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."

There is now a domestic threat that has been created which is anyone who does not bow to the agenda of the current administration.

Personally I worry less about terrorists than gangs. I completed the local "Citizen's Police Academy" earlier this year and while there was discussion/information given regarding terrorism, the larger emphasis was on drug trafficing and gang activity. When you see some of the weaponry that drug cartels and gangs have and use, it helps understand why local PD's need to up-armor. To a point.

[DavieD55]

Personally I worry less about terrorists than gangs. I completed the local "Citizen's Police Academy" earlier this year and while there was discussion/information given regarding terrorism, the larger emphasis was on drug trafficing and gang activity. When you see some of the weaponry that drug cartels and gangs have and use, it helps understand why local PD's need to up-armor. To a point.

Right, but it doesn't help when our borders are wide open. Also, when the military equipment is used against the people in order to lock down entire cities like Boston was recently, there is a problem with that and a clear sign that it is out of control. especially When the gov starts labling citizens and vets as terrorists which is a big red flag indication of how it could be used on the American people... It is getting way out of hand, has been for some time now.

[sniper7]

Holy cow the tinfoil is thick in this thread. 2 random pictures with no supporting context and everyone is talking shit about the people who protect you while you sleep. Yes, there are good and bad cops, all are human and make mistakes as we all do. The same people bitching about overweight cops are some of the same people that can't walk half a mile without stopping to catch their breath. Some of you need to spend less time armchair quarterbacking people who protect you and more time being productive.

Rant over for now

I protect myself. Pretty much The only interactions I've had with cops involved me giving them money. Be it for tickets, a concealed carry permit or donations for their group/cause.

[rondog]

That photo should really help that driver in his lawsuit about having a rifle unjustly pointed at his face!

[DavieD55]

Y'all need to stop bitc---- the cops were just following orders and trying to do their job. but seriously, hitlers ss was just following orders too... brokenscout is right.

[Ronin13]

Y'all need to stop bitc---- the cops were just following orders and trying to do their job. but seriously, hitlers ss was just following orders too... brokenscout is right.

I feel the need to request the "brakes be pumped" on this. Stop comparing modern American law enforcement and "just doing their job" to the SS or other Nazi Germany war criminals "just doing their job." Two very different things- US LEOs are much more accountable, have US/Constitutional law to abide by, and have public opinion and department policy to abide by. Our cops are not out rounding up minorities for systematic slaughter- so please, refrain from comparing the "just doing their job" to the Nazis. It's disingenuous and counter productive.

[generalmeow]

I feel the need to request the "brakes be pumped" on this. Stop comparing modern American law enforcement and "just doing their job" to the SS or other Nazi Germany war criminals "just doing their job." Two very different things- US LEOs are much more accountable, have US/Constitutional law to abide by, and have public opinion and department policy to abide by. Our cops are not out rounding up minorities for systematic slaughter- so please, refrain from comparing the "just doing their job" to the Nazis. It's disingenuous and counter productive.

Except if the nazis didn't do what they were told, they were probably executed. So they had even more of a reason to follow ridiculous orders then LEO's.

The LEO could walk away. The Nazi couldn't.

Everyone just does what they're told, but some have better reason to do it than others. ETA - "better" probably isn't the word for it. Nazis didn't have a better reason for following orders, they had a scarier reason.

[DavieD55]

I feel the need to request the "brakes be pumped" on this. Stop comparing modern American law enforcement and "just doing their job" to the SS or other Nazi Germany war criminals "just doing their job." Two very different things- US LEOs are much more accountable, have US/Constitutional law to abide by, and have public opinion and department policy to abide by. Our cops are not out rounding up minorities for systematic slaughter- so please, refrain from comparing the "just doing their job" to the Nazis. It's disingenuous and counter productive.

I am glad that you have an understanding of the differences between what is wrong and what is right. Many don't give a shit about it and ignore it. The Constitution reigns supreme regardless.