Police Checkpoint Proceedures

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Ok coloccw put your current self in this exact situation. You have done absolutely nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide, you're in a car, and a police office has a rifle pointed at you(or close), because a suspect is on the loose.

Are you ok with this? Just a simple yes or no will do.

[275RLTW]

Ok coloccw put your current self in this exact situation. You have done absolutely nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide, you're in a car, and a police office has a rifle pointed at you(or close), because a suspect is on the loose.

Are you ok with this? Just a simple yes or no will do.

Yep. An officer pointing a weapon near someone is a safety measure, not a threat.

[generalmeow]

Yep. An officer pointing a weapon near someone is a safety measure, not a threat.

A safety measure for them, not for me. I thought it was supposed to be about my safety? It is a threat for me.

Think about it in the reverse - what if there's a fake cop going around murdering people. I take it upon myself to point a gun at every cop I see until I determine they're not the culprit. "But it's for safety! My doing this is not a threat!" Yeah, it's for my safety alone, and a huge threat to the person I'm pointing the gun at. I don't think this would last long.

But why would the cops even get mad, since they do this to everyone and the person they point the gun at is supposed to be grateful?

[sniper7]

Yep. An officer pointing a weapon near someone is a safety measure, not a threat.

Wow....

The rules of firearm safety do not ever change. You never point it at something you aren't willing to destroy. That applies to everyone, even cops.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Yep. An officer pointing a weapon near someone is a safety measure, not a threat.

Cool. So is grabbing your pubic, and your wives private areas by the TSA.

[275RLTW]

Wow....

The rules of firearm safety do not ever change. You never point it at something you aren't willing to destroy. That applies to everyone, even cops.

Who says the cop isn't willing to destroy me? He doesn't know my intentions, especially after 4 other LE were just injured. You can't have total security and absolute freedom at the same time.

Cool. So is grabbing your pubic, and your wives private areas by the TSA.

If you don't like the procedures, then don't fly. No one is forcing you to get on a plane.

[bogie]

Who says the cop isn't willing to destroy me? He doesn't know my intentions, especially after 4 other LE were just injured. You can't have total security and absolute freedom at the same time.




If you don't like the procedures, then don't fly. No one is forcing you to get on a plane.

I'll take total freedom.

[<MADDOG>]

Who says the cop isn't willing to destroy me? He doesn't know my intentions, especially after 4 other LE were just injured. You can't have total security and absolute freedom at the same time.




If you don't like the procedures, then don't fly. No one is forcing you to get on a plane.

Thank you coloccw; I do believe you just have shown your true colors...

[Irving]

Thank you coloccw; I do believe you just have shown your true colors...

I don't think that coloccw is advocating that he prefers more security to less freedom, he is just relating a cold hard fact.
There is a disconnect between what he is seeing and what others are seeing. Coloccw is perfectly comfortable with someone in the position of a police officer to be holding a rifle in a low ready position while facing coloccw, but the rifle not pointing at him.

What he says about security and freedom is true. The issue arises in that even if the gentleman in the vehicle prefers more freedom than security, he (or any of us) is not in the position to opt out at that moment.

[sniper7]

Who says the cop isn't willing to destroy me? He doesn't know my intentions, especially after 4 other LE were just injured. You can't have total security and absolute freedom at the same time.




If you don't like the procedures, then don't fly. No one is forcing you to get on a plane.

So you are fine starring down the barrel of a gun that a cop is holding?
You ever see the Cali shootouts or the other numerous videos of police shootouts or even encounters where they have negligent discharges in classrooms or while attempting to hold someone at gunpoint?

If you are okay with that you are a total dumbass. Like I said...the rules of firearms Dont change no matter who it is and how much training they have.