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    I voted no because the tax rate is too high. I would agree with a tax equal to the amount needed to regulate it.

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    Why even say that the tax on alcohol is okay? The faster we all accept this BS, the faster is has ZERO chance of changing.
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    They'll just use this extra money to refund the general tax fund so they can pay for some other bullshit that none of us want. Just like they will do with Amendment 66. What's go for the stoner is what's good for the children I guess?
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    Dude, what?

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    I am against any kind of tax increase.
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    What I was trying to say, is that any time we vote to give the government more money in one area, that lessens the burden from the general fund, allowing them to start a new avenue of dependence some where else. Then in a few years, we'll all be voting to increase taxes for that cause in the same way. Opening up the door for more taxes, no matter whom it hurts, is stupid and should be avoided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    What I was trying to say, is that any time we vote to give the government more money in one area, that lessens the burden from the general fund, allowing them to start a new avenue of dependence some where else. Then in a few years, we'll all be voting to increase taxes for that cause in the same way. Opening up the door for more taxes, no matter whom it hurts, is stupid and should be avoided.
    I don't for a moment believe that defeating a thousand tax increase initiatives at the polls will teach any politician in Denver any sort of lesson. In the minds of most Democrat (and quite a few Republican) politicians is the absolute belief that all wealth and property is rightfully the property of the state and the fact that the people "are allowed" to keep even a penny of The State's money is a gross injustice that must be rectified.

    On principal I agree that we should stop feeding the beast ... that's why I said this is the first time I've voted for a reason other than ideology or tactics. But in the last few years the leftists in this state have been slowly eroding my personal liberty and wealth, so in this one case I'm going to spit in the eye of the leftists.

    As for the whole "give 'em an inch they'll take a mile" thinking ... history has proved that when it comes to taxes and Democrats they will demand the whole ruler whether you give them any inches or not.
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    California (san francisco) is trying to pass a sugar tax as we speak, give em an inch and next thing ya know they are a ruler. Where in the hell does this stop, maybe when you are forced to accept government handouts because your high paying job isn't enough to pay your bills because of to many taxes. I vote no on any tax increase of any kind at this point.

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    If you defeat every tax bill they will just find another way of getting their money, just like with the 30 dollar fee for your vehicle registration. Not a huge deal for someone who registers a 50 thousand dollar bmw, but for my motorcycles is more than doubled it.

    That doesnt mean that you should vote for them just because they will get their money anyway.

    It will likely just revert back to the old way of getting your weed, on the street. Except there will be no way for the state to track it and tell whether taxes were paid on it.

    Personally have never understood the draw of smoking, drinking, etc. To me they are just ways of fooling yourself that you are better and happier. I cant think of any real tangible way that they have improved society and our country and the human race as a whole. But it is your life, you have to pay to play.

    The funny thing is that everyone knew that if it was made legal they would tax the hell out of it, They told you straight up that was what was going to happen, and they still voted to make it legal and are then surprised when they actually followed through. It would be like buying a car with you knew had a blown engine and then being surprised that you were not able to drive it home. That is what happens when you go for instant gratification and dont think it through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtrulz View Post
    If you defeat every tax bill they will just find another way of getting their money, just like with the 30 dollar fee for your vehicle registration. Not a huge deal for someone who registers a 50 thousand dollar bmw, but for my motorcycles is more than doubled it.
    Just to correct you on the increased vehicle registration fees, it IS a big deal for the person registering that $50K BMW because his/her registration fee isn't some measly $30, it's more like $1500. Three years ago I got a "new" Expedition (1-year-old former rental) to replace my 13-year-old Bravada. Registration went up from about $50 to over $500 (my memory is foggy but I think it was around $700-800).

    Denver's addiction to taxes and fees is a major reason I refuse to replace my 14-year-old car -- I can afford a shiny new car and there are even some I like but I'd rather pay my mechanic to keep the old junker running than pay Denver their extortion on new vehicles.

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