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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I'm all for Ritter's illegal by-passing of the TABOR laws; because I hate Toyota Prius drivers.
    Non-sequitur and a straw man.

    AA is in line with TABOR, Ritter's illegal by-passing of TABOR was illegal and bypassed tabor. And no I won't vote for 66 or your imaginary Prius tax because they would harm non-liberals as much as liberals. AA will harm liberals disproportionately to non-liberals.

    Again, on principal I don't disagree with you. The state has too much money and doesn't deserve more, but I already admitted I'm voting for the damn thing purely out of hatred of leftists, liberals and Demonrats (and no it's not misguided hatred ... it's a laser focused and fully justified hatred that frankly I've shown WAY more restraint of in the past).

    I don't expect my reasoning to convince someone still voting for ideological or tactical reasons to convince them to come over to my side, nor do I hold it against anyone who chooses to vote against AA because they oppose any new taxes (or feel AA is excessive).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I'm all for Ritter's illegal by-passing of the TABOR laws; because I hate Toyota Prius drivers.
    Because you perceive them as ironically pious? Or is it because they actually do more harm to the environment than any other modern ultra mileage economy car? I once had a Prius as a rental, would I endure the same hate?

    I do know some nice conservative folks (co-workers) that commute in metro areas other than Denver that only got one to save (gas) money for their family. I'm sure they would be interested to know the motivation behind all the hate.
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    Cause they are a butt ugly car, and every owner that I have talked to is a treehugging, green weinie, liberal, gun hating, Democrap who thinks they are smugly "helping the environment" while you are a gross polluter. As to the original subject of this thread, taxation to me is an infringment of my freedoms. Letting the Govt tax anything allows them some measure of control. Most of you here on this site seem to think you have freedom in regards to your firearms, why would you want to take that same freedom of choice away from someone else by supporting the Govts. ability to tax their version of freedom? They don't like guns, you don't like "potheads" so lets each find a way to piss in the others post toasties? Give me a break! Hypocritical to the max. NO TO ANY NEW TAXES!!!
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    Well, it sounds like you know you're voting emotionally and fully understand the consequences.
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    Divide and conquer. Something the 'pols are great at. If you don't like taxes, don't vote for it, even if this particular tax won't stick it to you personally.

    Who knows, the next AA might be a 25% tax on ammunition. Do you really want to be standing there trying to convince some pot smoker that they shouldn't vote for a tax that doesn't affect them when you had shafted them exactly the same way a few years before?

    Freedom is about allowing others to do things that you might not agree with. Your freedom to swing your arms should only end just before they reach my nose, not before.

    Next time you check into a hotel and shake your head at a >10% "occupancy tax" realize that it was voted in by people that thought "oh, this won't affect me" because they're locals. Yeah, until you travel elsewhere and encounter taxes put in place by the same kinds of people.

    Regulating weed is no harder than regulating alcohol, and alcohol gets by without huge taxes. Put grass under the exact same controls and be done with it. The pols are creating a problem that doesn't exist and then they're asking for taxes to solve said non-problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O2HeN2 View Post
    Who knows, the next AA might be a 25% tax on ammunition. Do you really want to be standing there trying to convince some pot smoker that they shouldn't vote for a tax that doesn't affect them when you had shafted them exactly the same way a few years before?
    Do you honestly believe that if you vote against AA now that a single pot smoking leftist will thank you by voting against an ammo tax? Short term memory issues aside, these leftist fuckers would vote for an ammo tax with glee even if you gave them a kidney.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Do you honestly believe that if you vote against AA now that a single pot smoking leftist will thank you by voting against an ammo tax? Short term memory issues aside, these leftist fuckers would vote for an ammo tax with glee even if you gave them a kidney.
    So you are for big government?

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    Since when has the purpose of voting ever been to appease or spite other voters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Since when has the purpose of voting ever been to appease or spite other voters?
    Maybe not so much at our level but once inside Gov it seems many votes are made for exactly those reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Since when has the purpose of voting ever been to appease or spite other voters?
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