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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Since when has the purpose of voting ever been to appease or spite other voters?
    My point is it gives you a principle to stand upon. Guess being principled isn't important to some folks.

    For me, principle is everything. "Do unto others" is a good place to start...

    Voting for AA because it doesn't gore your ox just makes you a politician's useful idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O2HeN2 View Post
    My point is it gives you a principal to stand upon. Guess that's not important to some folks.

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    I think the point is that different people have different principles. Like some here, I happen to think socialists and recreational use of mind-altering drugs are both detrimental to society. Beyond that, I've seen family and friends really mess up their lives with heavy use of marijuana. Unlike some of the others, I think feeding Denver's tax-and-spend habit is even worse. Some people's principles call for them to vote for AA, my principles call for me to deny Denver any tax increase whatsoever until they get the reality of fiscal discipline through their thick heads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O2HeN2 View Post
    My point is it gives you a principle to stand upon. Guess being principled isn't important to some folks.

    For me, principle is everything. "Do unto others" is a good place to start...

    Voting for AA because it doesn't gore your ox just makes you a politician's useful idiot.

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    I voted yes on the weed tax. I'm hoping it passes for 2 reasons: 1: hopeful the pot smokers blame the democrats for it and hoping the republicans can capitalize on it. 2: my wife is a teacher so I hope to see her get a raise out of the deal and then it will benefit me personally since neither of us touch or will touch weed. win-win
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    I voted yes on the weed tax. I'm hoping it passes for 2 reasons: 1: hopeful the pot smokers blame the democrats for it and hoping the republicans can capitalize on it. 2: my wife is a teacher so I hope to see her get a raise out of the deal and then it will benefit me personally since neither of us touch or will touch weed. win-win
    As far as your second item. Your wife will not see a penny of that nor will any other teacher. A small part is earmarked to construction/maintenance of schools, nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merl View Post
    As far as your second item. Your wife will not see a penny of that nor will any other teacher. A small part is earmarked to construction/maintenance of schools, nothing more.
    I'll call BS. The unions and the district may not get anything for the teachers but I guarantee the teachers will get a raise out of it, and at a minimum they will get to the pay levels they are currently supposed to be at since many of them were on pay freezes for 2-4 years depending on the districts that I am aware of and know teachers in.
    the school have enough money now and most have a surplus of money. district 12 kept something like 6 million back this last year. a few years ago they pissed away ~20 million on an indoor swimming pool because the money was use it or lose it from the state (not property taxes). People who suck with money in their own lives have jobs where they are in charge of projects like these and they suck with money in their jobs as well. But if this gets passed a big pat on the back will go to the teachers for their "walk and knocks" and getting out the vote type of BS. just watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    I'll call BS. The unions and the district may not get anything for the teachers but I guarantee the teachers will get a raise out of it, and at a minimum they will get to the pay levels they are currently supposed to be at since many of them were on pay freezes for 2-4 years depending on the districts that I am aware of and know teachers in.
    the school have enough money now and most have a surplus of money. district 12 kept something like 6 million back this last year. a few years ago they pissed away ~20 million on an indoor swimming pool because the money was use it or lose it from the state (not property taxes). People who suck with money in their own lives have jobs where they are in charge of projects like these and they suck with money in their jobs as well. But if this gets passed a big pat on the back will go to the teachers for their "walk and knocks" and getting out the vote type of BS. just watch.
    Well, if this bill passes, you'll know if it helps at all by if your wife gets a raise. If she does tell us, if not, I'd be interested to see how this money "helps" the schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osok-308 View Post
    Well, if this bill passes, you'll know if it helps at all by if your wife gets a raise. If she does tell us, if not, I'd be interested to see how this money "helps" the schools.
    I'll keep you guys in the loop depending on how this goes down. Between me, bigbear, and a couple others it should be pretty easy to see direct effects.
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    They have been arguing for years that if they legalize weed and tax it, the schools will come out great. Damn if the stuff wasn't legalized and now they are trying to get away with it not being taxed after all that bitching for years. I voted no on 64 so if they get to have this crap, I want something good to come out of it.

    As for the no new taxes of any kind... Well, I will go back to the Bill of Rights. Arms are covered, weed isn't. Voting yes on this thing will piss off more liberal dems than it will anyone else and that is all I need to know.

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    It's no wonder we are up shit river with no paddle. Some folks just don't understand Freedom, and what that means.

    Quote Originally Posted by KAPA View Post
    They have been arguing for years that if they legalize weed and tax it, the schools will come out great. Damn if the stuff wasn't legalized and now they are trying to get away with it not being taxed after all that bitching for years. I voted no on 64 so if they get to have this crap, I want something good to come out of it.

    As for the no new taxes of any kind... Well, I will go back to the Bill of Rights. Arms are covered, weed isn't. Voting yes on this thing will piss off more liberal dems than it will anyone else and that is all I need to know.

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