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    Default Prop AA: The weed tax

    So basically this is asking if we want to tax the hell out of weed which is what all the stoners have been wanting for the last decade or so... I am thinking I am all for this but the way it is worded, is there any chance that this tax can apply to any other products out there? It says state taxes can be increased by $70MM but if no one buys weed are they coming after something else to get their $70MM?

    Trying to find out more about this one before I decide to tax the hell out of it.

    Any thoughts?

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    Can you provide a single valid reason to "tax the hell out of" anything? The fact that you are even concerned it could backlash to something you care about should be answer enough for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Can you provide a single valid reason to "tax the hell out of" anything? The fact that you are even concerned it could backlash to something you care about should be answer enough for you.
    I can provide a reason in this very specific case, the people being affected said go ahead (though probably because they had to to get it at all).
    They were also told the new taxes would fund schools and that is not happening (except a token amount)

    As for OP, unless they start renaming other products as marijuana it should remain pretty specific.
    But divide and tax works very very well. Special sin taxes on booze, smokes, pot are easy. We can thank TABOR they are not higher.

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    Tax the hello out of it just like alcohol and tobacco, what's the problem with that ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by merl View Post
    I can provide a reason in this very specific case, the people being affected said go ahead (though probably because they had to to get it at all).
    They were also told the new taxes would fund schools and that is not happening (except a token amount)
    If you've told your wife 100 times to lock her car, and one morning you see someone snooping around her car with the door open, do you give them a go ahead to take it just to teach her a lesson?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    If you've told your wife 100 times to lock her car, and one morning you see someone snooping around her car with the door open, do you give them a go ahead to take it just to teach her a lesson?
    If someone puts a 'free stuff' sign on a box by the trash, go for it.

    Having to agree to be taxed was the bad part of the bargin to get it approved. That half of the agreement is why I voted against it then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    The premise of Amendment 64 was to "Regulate Marijuana like Alcohol", thus it should be taxed like alcohol as well. No additional taxes beyond those that apply to booze are acceptable to me under that premise, thus I voted no on 66.
    In my mind, "regulated like" and "taxed like" are two different things. I suppose that card could be played either way.

    Quote Originally Posted by merl View Post
    If someone puts a 'free stuff' sign on a box by the trash, go for it.

    Having to agree to be taxed was the bad part of the bargain to get it approved. That half of the agreement is why I voted against it then.
    My point is that it sets a precedent that is a bad precedent to set. It shouldn't be allowed for any reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Can you provide a single valid reason to "tax the hell out of" anything?
    Typically I'm opposed to any new taxes but frankly the people that are going to be most adversely affected by this tax are by and large my enemies ... while I acknowledge there are a handful of conservative and libertarian folk out there that smoke weed (or like me have no problem with it being legal even though we don't use it) but the vast majority of pot users are hardcore Democrats (and other assorted leftists) that are actively engaged in trying to take away my first and second amendment rights along with trying to eliminate free market capitalism so to hell with them.

    I'm voting for AA purely out of spite and hate.
    I'm voting for this rediculous tax purely to spit in the eye of pothead leftists that are ruining this beautiful state (and will if unchecked force me to leave it).
    I am voting for AA simply to make the lives of people I hate just slightly less fulfilling than they would otherwise be.

    I am voting for AA because for moral and legal reasons I can't simply shoot the fuckers, burn down their homes and piss on their graves.

    This will be two firsts for me, it'll be the first time I've voted for a tax increase and the first time I've voted for reasons that were not either ideological or tactical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Typically I'm opposed to any new taxes but frankly the people that are going to be most adversely affected by this tax are by and large my enemies ... while I acknowledge there are a handful of conservative and libertarian folk out there that smoke weed (or like me have no problem with it being legal even though we don't use it) but the vast majority of pot users are hardcore Democrats (and other assorted leftists) that are actively engaged in trying to take away my first and second amendment rights along with trying to eliminate free market capitalism so to hell with them.

    I'm voting for AA purely out of spite and hate.
    I'm voting for this rediculous tax purely to spit in the eye of pothead leftists that are ruining this beautiful state (and will if unchecked force me to leave it).
    I am voting for AA simply to make the lives of people I hate just slightly less fulfilling than they would otherwise be.

    I am voting for AA because for moral and legal reasons I can't simply shoot the fuckers, burn down their homes and piss on their graves.

    This will be two firsts for me, it'll be the first time I've voted for a tax increase and the first time I've voted for reasons that were not either ideological or tactical.
    I like this thinking and I think that is kind of where I am at on this issue. I think the gov needs to use the tax money they have in a far more efficient manner but at the same time, I was against 64 so the more thorns I can poke in the side of the typical pro-weed democrat the better.

    No way in hell I vote for 66, especially since this weed tax is supposed to go to schools. Yes on Prop AA for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Typically I'm opposed to any new taxes but frankly the people that are going to be most adversely affected by this tax are by and large my enemies ... while I acknowledge there are a handful of conservative and libertarian folk out there that smoke weed (or like me have no problem with it being legal even though we don't use it) but the vast majority of pot users are hardcore Democrats (and other assorted leftists) that are actively engaged in trying to take away my first and second amendment rights along with trying to eliminate free market capitalism so to hell with them.

    I'm voting for AA purely out of spite and hate.
    I'm voting for this rediculous tax purely to spit in the eye of pothead leftists that are ruining this beautiful state (and will if unchecked force me to leave it).
    I am voting for AA simply to make the lives of people I hate just slightly less fulfilling than they would otherwise be.

    I am voting for AA because for moral and legal reasons I can't simply shoot the fuckers, burn down their homes and piss on their graves.

    This will be two firsts for me, it'll be the first time I've voted for a tax increase and the first time I've voted for reasons that were not either ideological or tactical.
    Replace "weed" with "guns and ammunition" and "potheads" with "gun nuts" you have a Democrat/Liberal/Communist rant. A 30% surtax on guns, ammo, and reloading components? I could see the Dems proposing that. And we'd be crying "FOUL" before the ballots were printed. NO. No new taxes. No new spending. Just NO!
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