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    I disagree. TABOR means that all tax increases must be put to the people for a vote.


    I don't see how one tax proposal on one ballot is going to directly lead to the implementation of additional taxes, or additional proposed tax increases that would otherwise not have been proposed.


    Government, by its very nature, can and will constantly exert pressure to increase revenues, so it's disingenuous to claim that this tax will lead to more taxes when, in fact, there will be more tax proposals regardless of whether or not the weed tax passes.

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    Fair enough Justin. I agree with that point. Why vote at all then on AA?
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    This one, and another, and another at a later time, and another a few years later, etc. You ever heard about boiling the frog? The point is, and I will repeat, VOTE NO ON ANY NEW TAX of any kind, on anybody. Eventually the Govt. will try to tax YOUR activities and you won't like it, why allow other folks vices to be burdened by a new tax that you voted on in order to screw them over??? In the long run you screwed yourself, and everyone else in Colorado, whether they are involved in that particular vice or not. I don't do pot, or any other drug, but I'm not gonna sick a tax on them that do. Just cuttin' off your nose to spite your face!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I think some people are grossly over-blowing the importance of this one vote.
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    It is funny how the only arguments so far for voting yes on AA are petty and emotional. To each their own but i like the idea of not punishing people just because i do not agree with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Fair enough Justin. I agree with that point. Why vote at all then on AA?
    We need to pass it. The sooner we get the predominate demographic of pot smokers away from the voting booth the better. The left's biggest weapon in CO has been people that normally don't give a shit, turning out to vote in droves for pot. Get pot off the ballot, they go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    No one is allowed to say that they agree with less taxes, if they voted for this.
    I'm all for less taxes on ME. fuck them.

    the fucking bicyclists and hippy hikers utilize the federal lands and parks and everything else that my tax dollars and my dads tax dollars and my grandparents tax dollars paid for. the pittman robertson tax that sportsmen pay for and voluntarily elected. My guns, my ammo, my hunting licenses etc. Guys like me keep places like that running. then the fucking parks department runs in the red all the time and the division of wildlife who was paid for by my same very tax dollars (and always in the black) gets combined with them thanks to another fucking democrat. now I have to pay for the god damn liberals wages that think I shouldn't carry in the same fucking park that I now have to pay for. FUCK THAT AN FUCK THEM
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    Quote Originally Posted by merl View Post
    As far as your second item. Your wife will not see a penny of that nor will any other teacher. A small part is earmarked to construction/maintenance of schools, nothing more.
    I'll call BS. The unions and the district may not get anything for the teachers but I guarantee the teachers will get a raise out of it, and at a minimum they will get to the pay levels they are currently supposed to be at since many of them were on pay freezes for 2-4 years depending on the districts that I am aware of and know teachers in.
    the school have enough money now and most have a surplus of money. district 12 kept something like 6 million back this last year. a few years ago they pissed away ~20 million on an indoor swimming pool because the money was use it or lose it from the state (not property taxes). People who suck with money in their own lives have jobs where they are in charge of projects like these and they suck with money in their jobs as well. But if this gets passed a big pat on the back will go to the teachers for their "walk and knocks" and getting out the vote type of BS. just watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    I'm all for less taxes on ME. fuck them.

    the fucking bicyclists and hippy hikers utilize the federal lands and parks and everything else that my tax dollars and my dads tax dollars and my grandparents tax dollars paid for.(...) FUCK THAT AN FUCK THEM
    Then go get your money's worth dude. No one is stopping you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skullybones View Post
    Then go get your money's worth dude. No one is stopping you.
    you didn't even come close to getting the point. I don't even think you saw a point...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraven251 View Post
    We need to pass it. The sooner we get the predominate demographic of pot smokers away from the voting booth the better. The left's biggest weapon in CO has been people that normally don't give a shit, turning out to vote in droves for pot. Get pot off the ballot, they go away.
    The problem with your thesis is that the very existence of this Amendment -- as well as 64 last year -- is designed to get pot smokers to the polls. Without 64 on the ballot, fewer pot smokers would have gotten up the energy to go to the polls, fewer Dems would have won tight races across the state, etc. They will be motivated to actually vote as long as pot IS on the ballot.

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