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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    I'll call BS. The unions and the district may not get anything for the teachers but I guarantee the teachers will get a raise out of it, and at a minimum they will get to the pay levels they are currently supposed to be at since many of them were on pay freezes for 2-4 years depending on the districts that I am aware of and know teachers in.
    the school have enough money now and most have a surplus of money. district 12 kept something like 6 million back this last year. a few years ago they pissed away ~20 million on an indoor swimming pool because the money was use it or lose it from the state (not property taxes). People who suck with money in their own lives have jobs where they are in charge of projects like these and they suck with money in their jobs as well. But if this gets passed a big pat on the back will go to the teachers for their "walk and knocks" and getting out the vote type of BS. just watch.
    Well, if this bill passes, you'll know if it helps at all by if your wife gets a raise. If she does tell us, if not, I'd be interested to see how this money "helps" the schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    I'm all for less taxes on ME. fuck them.

    the fucking bicyclists and hippy hikers utilize the federal lands and parks and everything else that my tax dollars and my dads tax dollars and my grandparents tax dollars paid for. the pittman robertson tax that sportsmen pay for and voluntarily elected. My guns, my ammo, my hunting licenses etc. Guys like me keep places like that running. then the fucking parks department runs in the red all the time and the division of wildlife who was paid for by my same very tax dollars (and always in the black) gets combined with them thanks to another fucking democrat. now I have to pay for the god damn liberals wages that think I shouldn't carry in the same fucking park that I now have to pay for. FUCK THAT AN FUCK THEM
    They cannot use some areas unless they buy the habitat stamp if that makes you feel any better. DOW is a perfect example of "if you give them an inch they will take a mile". While not loosing money they raise the price on hunting and fishing licenses with residents taking most of the brunt, then they add habitat stamps, for a while they required parking permits for access to many of our rivers, they tried to make you pay for walk-on access even though they had more then enough money to pay for it, the list goes on and on. I have not seen any improvement to my hunting or fishing experience, if any thing its worse, yet they still keep going after your money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    you didn't even come close to getting the point. I don't even think you saw a point...
    Oh, I got your point. Just stirring the pot since this is such an emotional topic...
    I do agree that the funds are usually mismanaged, and this will most likely be no different.

    I also don't see my wife getting a raise out of this, but maybe I should HOPE for CHANGE in the system.

    I'll bow out now and let everyone have their fun.
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    It will help when I go to sell my house. I will note in the listing that "house is adorable and located in 420 friendly Pee Eblow"

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    Quote Originally Posted by osok-308 View Post
    Well, if this bill passes, you'll know if it helps at all by if your wife gets a raise. If she does tell us, if not, I'd be interested to see how this money "helps" the schools.
    I'll keep you guys in the loop depending on how this goes down. Between me, bigbear, and a couple others it should be pretty easy to see direct effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabid View Post
    They cannot use some areas unless they buy the habitat stamp if that makes you feel any better. DOW is a perfect example of "if you give them an inch they will take a mile". While not loosing money they raise the price on hunting and fishing licenses with residents taking most of the brunt, then they add habitat stamps, for a while they required parking permits for access to many of our rivers, they tried to make you pay for walk-on access even though they had more then enough money to pay for it, the list goes on and on. I have not seen any improvement to my hunting or fishing experience, if any thing its worse, yet they still keep going after your money.
    that makes me feel a little better I guess

    they got rid of the walk in access fee. I bought a lifetime habitat stamp because I am young enough it will pay for itself. I wish they still offered lifetime licenses. that would be awesome.
    they follow what other states do. if you ever hunt out of state you will see a lot of the same things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Fair enough Justin. I agree with that point. Why vote at all then on AA?

    I voted for the tax because fuck hippies.

    While I agree with you in principal, the problem is that siding with the legalize weed crowd has results in the election of politicians who have actively worked against my rights and interests.


    In all of the years that I've advocated for civil rights and weed legalization, I never, not once, got reciprocation from the pot crowd on gun rights.

    If they aren't going to stand up for my rights, then I am withdrawing my support for theirs.

    If you want me to rescind my position, you can start by convincing some of the pot crowd to stand up for my rights, even though it's not their thing.
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    As I said before: "cutting off your nose to spite your face". And I hoped 99% of the "gun guys" had their heads untucked, it seems I am wrong. Some sound exactly like the libtards.

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    Prove me wrong and show me the pot advocates willing to speak up for my gun rights, and not just on the internet, but in testimony, financial support and the voting booth.
    RATATATATATATATATATATABLAM

    If there's nothing wrong with having to show an ID to buy a gun, there's nothing wrong with having to show an ID to vote.

    For legal reasons, that's a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukeeshaker View Post
    As I said before: "cutting off your nose to spite your face". And I hoped 99% of the "gun guys" had their heads untucked, it seems I am wrong. Some sound exactly like the libtards.
    Hyperbole is the stock and trade of the libtards ... sheesh.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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