Prop AA: The weed tax

[Irving]

Why wouldn't weed be under FDA or ATF?

[Monky]

They wanted it legal.. they got it legal.. they didn't want it taxed.. and the rest of the public said 'Fuck you'.. Majority rules. Nothing we can do now.

[davsel]

Yes they are however the legalization of MJ creates a whole new set of regulations and regulators. It's not like someone is simply introducing a new food, alcohol, fuel, etc that would fall under a current department.

Why not just lump it in with ATF regulators?
We already tax the hell out of other forms of tobacco.

[newracer]

Why wouldn't weed be under FDA or ATF?

Why not just lump it in with ATF regulators?
We already tax the hell out of other forms of tobacco.

Because those are federal departments and it is not legal at the federal level. So for now there is a need for a tax at the state level. Even if it did fall under one of those departments it would still need to be taxed the same as the products currently under those departments are.

[davsel]

Because those are federal departments and it is not legal at the federal level. So for now there is a need for a tax at the state level. Even if it did fall under one of those departments it would still need to be taxed the same as the products currently under those departments are.

Fair enough.
How bout the Colorado, Department of Revenue, Liquor Enforcement Division?

http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite.../1209635770319

Tobacco Enforcement

The Division coordinates its enforcement activities with the Colorado Departments of Human Services and Health. The Division responds to complaints about tobacco sales to minors and conducts unannounced retailer compliance checks (stings) to determine retailer compliance.

The Division conducts approximately 3,200 tobacco retailer compliance checks. Retailers who sell to minors during a compliance check will be issued a warning and targeted for future compliance checks. If continuing violations occur, a retailer can receive administrative fines ranging from $250 to $15,000.

On an annual basis the Division will work with the Department of Human Services to develop a federal report concerning the effectiveness of Colorado's enforcement program. Federal mandates require Colorado to achieve and maintain an 80% retailer compliance rate to avoid endangering federal grant monies. Colorado's current compliance rate ranges from 92-96%.

[newracer]

Fair enough.
How bout the Colorado, Department of Revenue, Liquor Enforcement Division?

http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite.../1209635770319

Tobacco Enforcement

The Division coordinates its enforcement activities with the Colorado Departments of Human Services and Health. The Division responds to complaints about tobacco sales to minors and conducts unannounced retailer compliance checks (stings) to determine retailer compliance.

The Division conducts approximately 3,200 tobacco retailer compliance checks. Retailers who sell to minors during a compliance check will be issued a warning and targeted for future compliance checks. If continuing violations occur, a retailer can receive administrative fines ranging from $250 to $15,000.

On an annual basis the Division will work with the Department of Human Services to develop a federal report concerning the effectiveness of Colorado's enforcement program. Federal mandates require Colorado to achieve and maintain an 80% retailer compliance rate to avoid endangering federal grant monies. Colorado's current compliance rate ranges from 92-96%.

It could be placed under their jurisdiction but it would still need to be taxed just as alcohol and tobacco.

As I said before I think this tax is too high as well as many others and for the record I voted no.

Also even if MJ is placed under an existing department there would still be a need to regulators that are familiar with MJ. So that means either training existing personnel or highering new.

[mtnhack]

It could be placed under their jurisdiction but it would still need to be taxed just as alcohol and tobacco.

As I said before I think this tax is too high as well as many others and for the record I voted no.

Also even if MJ is placed under an existing department there would still be a need to regulators that are familiar with MJ. So that means either training existing personnel or highering new.

I think it is hilarious that all the ass-hurt-that-MJ-passed people then voted to tax the living shit out of it for spite. Why is it funny? Because not only did they just create a new black market for something we just legalized (because the tax is too high), but they also grew the state government a ton. CO will be hiring new people to oversee the taxation portion, more to regulate the massive book of MJ laws and probably even some to enforce them as well.

So the next time they cry about growing the government...

[milwaukeeshaker]

There's a lot of dumb-shits on this forum, who continually shoot themselves in the foot for lack of understanding true freedom and liberty. But you might as well give up trying to educate them. They are as bad as the hoplophobes.

I think it is hilarious that all the ass-hurt-that-MJ-passed people then voted to tax the living shit out of it for spite. Why is it funny? Because not only did they just create a new black market for something we just legalized (because the tax is too high), but they also grew the state government a ton. CO will be hiring new people to oversee the taxation portion, more to regulate the massive book of MJ laws and probably even some to enforce them as well.

So the next time they cry about growing the government...

[Ronin13]

There's a lot of dumb-shits on this forum, who continually shoot themselves in the foot for lack of understanding true freedom and liberty. But you might as well give up trying to educate them. They are as bad as the hoplophobes.

When the so-called "education" is veiled heavily in condescension and vitriol (as your post indicates), it's really hard to keep an open mind. But it's okay, trying out Liberal argument tactics for the first time can hard to adjust to.

[jerrymrc]

I think it is hilarious that all the ass-hurt-that-MJ-passed people then voted to tax the living shit out of it for spite. Why is it funny? Because not only did they just create a new black market for something we just legalized (because the tax is too high), but they also grew the state government a ton. CO will be hiring new people to oversee the taxation portion, more to regulate the massive book of MJ laws and probably even some to enforce them as well.

So the next time they cry about growing the government...

Your welcome.