So everyone is following the new laws without a peep?

[DOC]

I haven't heard to much complaining about the new laws in a while or anything about what we are going to do to change it back and stop it from ever happening again.
I went to make a gun purchase and the new form that they make you fill out seems less like a check list asking if you are felon and more like a credit application. And with even private parties being forced to do background checks all the information seems like everything one would need for a registry but the name.

Also making someone buy a firearm before running a background check seems like entrapment. If ATF or CBI doesn't like doing their jobs maybe they should scrap the whole system. And we still shouldn't have to pay for a background check since we didn't want to fucking thing to begin with.

[ZERO THEORY]

I don't know what you're talking about, but we recalled two public officials, have a petition to repeal the laws in circulation, and are in the process of booting another one of the gang out of office. I'd say we're definitely complaining and doing things to take our state back.

[anaphylaxis]

we recalled two public officials, have a petition to repeal the laws in circulation, and are in the process of booting another one of the gang out of office.

+1

I've donated hundreds to the recall efforts and signed the petition. Complaining with my wallet...

[DOC]

And I don't think I'm bitching. I have just been out of the loop and need an update. I just don't know how to ask nicely. Its something that I am working on.

[DOC]

Added some info to that post.

[UrbanWolf]

Added some info to that post.

This form?

http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/downl...f-f-4473-1.pdf

[Great-Kazoo]

I haven't heard to much complaining about the new laws in a while or anything about what we are going to do to change it back and stop it from ever happening again.
I went to make a gun purchase and the new form that they make you fill out seems less like a check list asking if you are felon and more like a credit application. And with even private parties being forced to do background checks all the information seems like everything one would need for a registry but the name.

Also making someone buy a firearm before running a background check seems like entrapment. If ATF or CBI doesn't like doing their jobs maybe they should scrap the whole system. And we still shouldn't have to pay for a background check since we didn't want to fucking thing to begin with.

You not visit the L&P forum?? You not contribute to any of the recalls? You do anything besides bitch in GD?

What new form? Last one i did 2 weeks ago looks like the one i filled out 2 months before that.

Where did you go that "someone made you " buy a firearm before the BG check was ran ??

[DOC]

You not visit the L&P forum?? You not contribute to any of the recalls? You do anything besides bitch in GD?

What new form? Last one i did 2 weeks ago looks like the one i filled out 2 months before that.

Where did you go that "someone made you " buy a firearm before the BG check was ran ??

Its the same form that's been used for some time. But its been a while since I went to an FFL I guess. But it seems like way to much information that they don't need to ask let alone know. Race, SSN... Hispanic or Not Hispanic.

And CBI wouldn't run a check for anyone but an FFL. And the FFL wouldn't run one without a purchase and even said that it was a lesser crime to do it. But not a potential felony like if I tried to buy a gun. And an FFL are so scared of Big Brother that even mentioning running a BG had them peeing their pants diving under the desks and saying thanks for being honest but we aren't even going to run a check or sell a gun you. Please leave.

I have been contributing too. Money mostly. I talk to people but they are pissed and don't support the laws even the ones that think they will do some good. But they aren't really getting out and doing anything. It seems like we are all so busy to see what is going on in plain sight.

[UrbanWolf]

Its the same form that's been used for some time. But its been a while since I went to an FFL I guess. But it seems like way to much information that they don't need to ask let alone know. Race, SSN... Hispanic or Not Hispanic.

And CBI wouldn't run a check for anyone but an FFL. And the FFL wouldn't run one without a purchase and even said that it was a lesser crime to do it. But not a potential felony like if I tried to buy a gun.

I have been contributing too. Money mostly. I talk to people but they are pissed and don't support the laws even the ones that think they will do some good. But they aren't really getting out and doing anything. It seems like we are all so busy to see what is going on in plain sight.

That form has been in use for 2 years at least, only had a few minor changes regarding Hispanic and other groups or so.

[DOC]

That's the form. I forgot about the weight and sex question. A lot of none of your business questions.
I don't think that not following the law is the answer but the checks are a bit much.