So everyone is following the new laws without a peep?

[UrbanWolf]

Its the same form that's been used for some time. But its been a while since I went to an FFL I guess. But it seems like way to much information that they don't need to ask let alone know. Race, SSN... Hispanic or Not Hispanic.

And CBI wouldn't run a check for anyone but an FFL. And the FFL wouldn't run one without a purchase and even said that it was a lesser crime to do it. But not a potential felony like if I tried to buy a gun.

I have been contributing too. Money mostly. I talk to people but they are pissed and don't support the laws even the ones that think they will do some good. But they aren't really getting out and doing anything. It seems like we are all so busy to see what is going on in plain sight.

That form has been in use for 2 years at least, only had a few minor changes regarding Hispanic and other groups or so.

[DOC]

Added some info to that post.

[UrbanWolf]

Added some info to that post.

This form?

http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/downl...f-f-4473-1.pdf

[DOC]

That's the form. I forgot about the weight and sex question. A lot of none of your business questions.
I don't think that not following the law is the answer but the checks are a bit much.

[Great-Kazoo]

Its the same form that's been used for some time. But its been a while since I went to an FFL I guess. But it seems like way to much information that they don't need to ask let alone know. Race, SSN... Hispanic or Not Hispanic.

And CBI wouldn't run a check for anyone but an FFL. And the FFL wouldn't run one without a purchase and even said that it was a lesser crime to do it. But not a potential felony like if I tried to buy a gun. And an FFL are so scared of Big Brother that even mentioning running a BG had them peeing their pants diving under the desks and saying thanks for being honest but we aren't even going to run a check or sell a gun you. Please leave.

I have been contributing too. Money mostly. I talk to people but they are pissed and don't support the laws even the ones that think they will do some good. But they aren't really getting out and doing anything. It seems like we are all so busy to see what is going on in plain sight.

That whole too much info is the same info asked when you apply for a job. Your SS number is on every medical document.

Regarding the FFL deal. It seems you have changed your original "complaint" in this, from your first post. Your first "bitchin" implied they were forcing you to buy it PRIOR to running a BG check.
Reading this latest tidbit of info. It APPEARS you were wanting a BG check done through a FFL w/out an actual purchase. 2 different scenarios.
I highly doubt they were pissing their pants at your inquiry.

[UrbanWolf]

That's the form. I forgot about the weight and sex question. A lot of none of your business questions.
I don't think that not following the law is the answer but the checks are a bit much.

The form has been that way since i bought my first gun back in late 2009, they might changed section 10.a or 10.b in the recent two years but i never really pay that much attention on what race groups they define.

[DOC]

That whole too much info is the same info asked when you apply for a job. Your SS number is on every medical document.

Regarding the FFL deal. It seems you have changed your original "complaint" in this, from your first post. Your first "bitchin" implied they were forcing you to buy it PRIOR to running a BG check.
Reading this latest tidbit of info. It APPEARS you were wanting a BG check done through a FFL w/out an actual purchase. 2 different scenarios.
I highly doubt they were pissing their pants at your inquiry.

Pissing their pants was hyperbole. However, you could see that in their faces that it was an option. Even the Aussy guy was so shaken his fake accent was breaking up.
So we are talking about the new laws it just went off an a tangent about something I find distasteful since the new law seems to go nicely with the new forms and a quasi registry. Tell me I'm wrong jim?
I will do whatever I have to and can do without a second thought (legally) to get this shit fixed. I just want to know that I'm not alone. That there are real freedom loving Coloradians still in the state and that I'm not the last to leave.

[Great-Kazoo]

Pissing their pants was hyperbole. However, you could see that in their faces that it was an option. Even the Aussy guy was so shaken his fake accent was breaking up.
So we are talking about the new laws it just went off an a tangent about something I find distasteful since the new law seems to go nicely with the new forms and a quasi registry. Tell me I'm wrong jim?
I will do whatever I have to and can do without a second thought (legally) to get this shit fixed. I just want to know that I'm not alone. That there are real freedom loving Coloradians still in the state and that I'm not the last to leave.

Like i said, but you missed , go to the L&P forum. there a lot of folks of like mind, you're just late to the party.

[DOC]

I didn't miss it I dismissed it because I don't know what the L&P Forum is. I suppose I should know it or google it but you saying I was just bitching didn't convince me that I am missing something and I should check it out.

[clublights]

L&P is the legislation and politics section of this board ....


There is is more here then just the general discussion and trading post lol