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    Default How will the new laws affect this?

    So here is the situation.

    I have an older Browning BAR .270 (When they were made in Belgium) that was gifted to me by my grandad. He said at the time that it just didn't feed right for him. Being a lefty I never shot it much. But once I did,it would fail to eject a casing all the way about every 3 shot and the bolt would lock up on it. This was after a box and a half of factory shells through it. I had a family friend who worked as a gunsmith for 20 years pull it apart and do some bolt work and it seemed good for a box. Now its to the point it either doesn't pull the spent casing out or when the bolt closes it doesn't lock all the way.

    So that puts me to now where I want to take it to a Browning Certified Service location here in state to have it fixed up, a non-reliable rifle is worthless. But it has never been registered to me and correct me if I am wrong I would need to transfer it to the shop and then have it transferred back to me? If this is true how does the fact I have no bill of sale and nothing else to show that I am the lawful owner?


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    No problemo, worst case you have to fill out a 4473 when you pick it up from being serviced. Nothing in the law is retroactive and contrary to popular belief there is no "registry" nation wide. Basically, the same as if you had bought it private party prior to July 1 2013, no paper trail on it. As long as it doesn't come up as stolen previously, there's no issue.

    EDIT: to clarify, there is no registry in CO either.
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    Jim will be along shortly to explain to you that you don't need any documents to indicate ownership.

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    Thanks for the replies. Just a thought as I was sitting here thinking about the ole vet grandad of mine and things he passed a long to me.

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    There is no registration and you can still transfer firearms as a "gift" between immediate family members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    Jim will be along shortly to explain to you that you don't need any documents to indicate ownership.

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    One of the most asked questions and yet one of the most misunderstood. THERE IS NO GUN REGISTRATION IN CO. Not yet anyway. Unless you have a NFA item. That's federal.
    Now CBI checks i'm sure one or two members have that info.
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    There is also no transfer paperwork/background check required for repair services. This scenario is listed as an exemption to HB 13-1229.
    Find a repair facility and work out the shipping with them. No problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    There is also no transfer paperwork/background check required for repair services. This scenario is listed as an exemption to HB 13-1229.
    Find a repair facility and work out the shipping with them. No problem.
    At one time, I believe it was a FEDERAL requirement that if a firearm were left overnight at a gunsmith facility, the firearm had to be logged into the gunsmith/FFL bound book. This applied if it was left overnight due to not being able to be repaired on the spot (same day as brought in)? If it WAS logged in, the form 4473 had to be executed. This was the way it worked at one time. Someone with knowledge about the current FEDERAL requirements should be jumping in here soon.

    Edit to add: The HB 13-1229 exempts from the background check requirement transfers:
    "6. made to facilitate the repair of a firearm as long as all parties possessing the firearm may do so legally";

    I kinda doubt if this would make it unnecessary to complete the form 4473 when the firearm is picked back up after completion of the repairs. Would seem that anytime a 4473 is filled out, a BG check has to be made to show an OK was given by CBI. Maybe I am totally wrong on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBob View Post
    At one time, I believe it was a Federal requirement that if a firearm were left overnight at a gunsmith facility, the firearm had to be logged into the gunsmith/FFL bound book. This applied if it was left overnight due to not being able to be repaired on the spot (same day as brought in)? If it WAS logged in, the form 4473 had to be executed. This was the way it worked at one time. Someone with knowledge about the current FEDERAL requirements should be jumping in here soon.
    I remember the need for paperwork to be filled out when picking up a firearm. I also remember when a CCW would allow you to bypass a BG check, outside of filling in the 4473.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    I also remember when a CCW would allow you to bypass a BG check, outside of filling in the 4473.
    That has never been authorized by the great State of Colorado - has it? Would sure be nice if it would work that way NOW.

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