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    Default help me understand ballastic armor...plate carriers

    So i bought a plate carrier, now how the hell do i set this up to get lvl IV protection for front and back, and then lvl III for the sides? They have several different brands and types...WTF? I can't figure this out what's the best option to go for? Steel Plate with spall? help...
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    Bulletproof me.com or you can stop by the shop one day and I'll bring in my stuff.

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    I use lined AR500 10"x12" curved shooter's cut plates.

    And if that's 'too heavy' for you, it's time to get back in the weight room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO THEORY View Post
    I use lined AR500 10"x12" curved shooter's cut plates.

    And if that's 'too heavy' for you, it's time to get back in the weight room.
    Yup AR500 has new rhino-lining type stuff that is *supposed* to eliminate spall. If that's not enough to ease minds, then make a lil pocket of kevlar-fabric for the plates to sit in. Cost no more than $50 & some sewing to do that extra step. The cost of AR500 can't be sniffed at, either.

    Agreed on the weight. If one hasn't actually considered how/where they're going to be moving and with who, in what (car or foot), and *with* what (food, water, equipment, shelter, clothes), it's a fair bet that the 10lbs difference between steel & ceramic isn't going to matter after 15 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KestrelBike View Post
    Agreed on the weight. If one hasn't actually considered how/where they're going to be moving and with who, in what (car or foot), and *with* what (food, water, equipment, shelter, clothes), it's a fair bet that the 10lbs difference between steel & ceramic isn't going to matter after 15 minutes.
    Excellent point. I would also add that in any situation where you're wearing armor as a civilian, your last concern is going to be weight. Presumably, the proverbial shit has hit the fan.

    Train/drill in your loaded carrier to get yourself used to the fit and feel, and used it to do weighted pushups/pullups/runs throughout the week. Solid investment.

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    Yup..ar 500 plate!...
    a tad heavy but- put the vest on and do push ups..
    Scorpius tactical- infidel- and a couple other people carry em.. Cheap
    i saw on scorpius -a few different packages some had side plates in ar500 too

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    You bought a great PC! I have two.

    I got in on the other site's Eclipse ceramic plate group buy. It was painful. Not sure I would go 100% ceramic again. Saw this and am considering it...

    http://www.thetargetman.com/product/...te-body-armor/

    They also have Rhino lined AR500 for spall protection.

    I found the side plates to be too bulky so I run my PIG without them--I don't think they offer that much protection anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Not sure I would go 100% ceramic again.
    Due to cost, cracking, care?? Why would you not got ceramic again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    Due to cost, cracking, care?? Why would you not got ceramic again?
    Cost and care. I don't have access to an xray machine and I think that is ridiculous.

    Composite is a much better solution if you are going to spend that kind of money.

    YMMV

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