Would you vote for Chris Chrispy?

[HoneyBadger]

Like the Bush's and Romney's that have actually passed real laws that have reduced our gun rights and wine and dine the Giffords' of the world?

sent from a soup can and some string..

I'm still waiting for Z's answer.

It sounds to me like "the Bush's and Romney's that have actually passed real laws that have reduced our gun rights and wine and dine the Giffords' of the world" isn't the party that best represents your values. My question is this: instead of abstaining from the vote, why not show your dissent by voting for a candidate or party that actually represents your values?

[Zundfolge]

but Z, why would you rather sit the election out instead of voting for a party that more accurately represents your values? Not trolling, it's an honest question.

I've made that same argument election after election and in some cases you're right (for example I believe Romney would have been an ok president ... no better or worse than Bush, but clearly no Reagan or Coolidge).

But at this point if the GOP picks Christy I believe that's it, there is no more chance for positive change through the political system and we're left with collapse, slavery and war.

If its some other mealy mouthed moderate Republican I may still vote for them ... but not Chris Christy.

Chris Christy is not a moderate, he's every bit as liberal as Obama himself ... if he runs he'll likely lose and then we'll have Hillary (or worse) for 4-8 years ... the country doesn't survive that. If he happens to win I believe he'll be almost as bad as Hillary and again the country doesn't survive (and by "not survive" I mean no longer be a free, constitutional republic ... we'll still exist but we'll be subjects of a totalitarian collectivist state, not free and sovereign citizens ... of course if there's a lot of unrest here and abroad, our weakness may attract invasion from the Chinese or Russians ... the end of the Pax-Americana will likely be worse than WWII).

Reagan said that we're never more than one generation away from tyranny. Well I believe that generation is out of college now, buying houses and starting families ... and those children they are having are not going to know life in a free America unless re reverse course HARD and FAST.

I tell you what, I'll vote for Christy if he pulls a McCain and picks a Cruz-like candidate for his running mate ... then pray every night that he drops dead of a heart attack.

[HoneyBadger]

I've made that same argument election after election and in some cases you're right (for example I believe Romney would have been an ok president ... no better or worse than Bush, but clearly no Reagan or Coolidge).

But at this point if the GOP picks Christy I believe that's it, there is no more chance for positive change through the political system and we're left with collapse, slavery and war.

If its some other mealy mouthed moderate Republican I may still vote for them ... but not Chris Christy.

Chris Christy is not a moderate, he's every bit as liberal as Obama himself ... if he runs he'll likely lose and then we'll have Hillary (or worse) for 4-8 years ... the country doesn't survive that. If he happens to win I believe he'll be almost as bad as Hillary and again the country doesn't survive (and by "not survive" I mean no longer be a free, constitutional republic ... we'll still exist but we'll be subjects of a totalitarian collectivist state, not free and sovereign citizens ... of course if there's a lot of unrest here and abroad, our weakness may attract invasion from the Chinese or Russians ... the end of the Pax-Americana will likely be worse than WWII).

Reagan said that we're never more than one generation away from tyranny. Well I believe that generation is out of college now, buying houses and starting families ... and those children they are having are not going to know life in a free America unless re reverse course HARD and FAST.

I tell you what, I'll vote for Christy if he pulls a McCain and picks a Cruz-like candidate for his running mate ... then pray every night that he drops dead of a heart attack.

Thanks for the response. I mostly agree.

The only thing I would contest is invasion, but I guess if we didn't have a unified front for national policy and defense, anything could happen.

[DavieD55]

Not just no but HOLY FUCKING CHRIST ON A CRACKER NO FUCKING WAY GODDAMNIT!!!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This.

[merl]

UrbanWolf, the other side could nominate Feinstein or someone with similar views on bill of rights. How would you vote then? There is bad and there is always the possibility for worse.

[UrbanWolf]

UrbanWolf, the other side could nominate Feinstein or someone with similar views on bill of rights. How would you vote then? There is bad and there is always the possibility for worse.

There are more then just Depublican and Remocrat party you know.

[merl]

There are more then just Depublican and Remocrat party you know.

None that have any hope in hell of winning the presidential election. Has a party other than the big 2 even won a senate race in the last hundred years? I think there might be one or two in the house but not sure.

Don't misunderstand my statements as support for the R party. I strongly disagree with the religious based social policies and see their economic policies as just subsidizing a different group of folks. When the choice is between bad and worse you choose bad. There could be good over there in the corner but they will stay there.

[UrbanWolf]

Fair enough.

None that have any hope in hell of winning the presidential election. Has a party other than the big 2 even won a senate race in the last hundred years? I think there might be one or two in the house but not sure.

Don't misunderstand my statements as support for the R party. I strongly disagree with the religious based social policies and see their economic policies as just subsidizing a different group of folks. When the choice is between bad and worse you choose bad. There could be good over there in the corner but they will stay there.

[whitbaby]

This is the same governor that directed his NJ to fly all flags at half staff in honor of Whitney Houston that OD'd on drugs?

...and the same governor that got all palsie-walsie and smoochie-woochie with Barry Saetoro after Sandy?

...uhhhh, probably not.

[Zundfolge]

UrbanWolf, the other side could nominate Feinstein.

Feinstein vs Christie? That's "Game Over" right there ... start stockpiling food water and ammo (and get ready to use them all).