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    Default Douglas Co Sheriff Weaver and ATF 41P

    I am not sure if this is a major topic on the forum, but ATF 41P(and bama) are going the NFA Trusts and LLC's "loophole" that are made for getting NFA items if a CLEO refuses to sign off on a form 1 where the NFA items are legal to possess. For example people in Douglas county cannot own SBR's or suppressors because Sheriff Weaver refuses to sign the forms, the only way to own them is with an NFA trust or LLC. My question is, with all of the posturing that has been made for the 2nd amendment by our sheriff's, which I appreciate it, is it worth bringing up the argument to a sheriff that is against infringing out rights of the 2nd amendment, that they are still infringing on it by not allowing us to own NFA items in a state where they are legal?

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    It would be helpful to find out why he won't sign the Forms. My understanding is that some won't sign because they are worried about the their personal or the cities liability if someone uses a NFA item to commit a crime that he has signed off. He could also be worried about if it could be used against them in an election. There are probably other reasons too. You could tailor your arguing points if you knew the reason he won't sign. Your point about supporting some gun rights but not supporting NFA stuff would definitely be worth arguing along with any other points.
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    You should be asking the contenders running for his term-limited spot in 2014.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    You should be asking the contenders running for his term-limited spot in 2014.
    That is a waste of time. You have to research their previous actions. People running for election can say anything they want. You have to go by what they have done and, maybe, what they said in the past. Don't trust them if they did or said anything previously that didn't support the 2nd Amendment
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    Weaver, who personally owns several NFA items, says 'Civilians don't need those - what would happen if they were stolen?'

    I have been around and around with him multiple times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    Weaver, who personally owns several NFA items, says 'Civilians don't need those - what would happen if they were stolen?'

    I have been around and around with him multiple times.
    There it is! The definition of hypocrisy, do as I say, not as I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    Weaver, who personally owns several NFA items, says 'Civilians don't need those - what would happen if they were stolen?'

    I have been around and around with him multiple times.
    Then he is saying that HE don't need them either, BECAUSE LEO's ARE CIVILIANS!

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    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
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    Don't get me started on weaver, I tried voting him out because of this very issue...Do as I say, not as I do! Anyhow, I went the trust route, it helps when I die by keeping the item in the fam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    Weaver, who personally owns several NFA items, says 'Civilians don't need those - what would happen if they were stolen?'

    I have been around and around with him multiple times.
    This is exactly what I was told when I went to get the form signed. (Minus the part about him owning them)

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