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    Default Is it worth it? (go after credit card fraud people)

    So, oddly enough, reading the last couple threads and having probably a 6 year clean streak....my wife used her card somewhere and some assholes got the number. they put on about $500 charge to cabelas.
    I talked to the credit card company, dispute the charge...not responsible for it blah blah blah. new card coming.

    I call cabelas in hopes that I caught it soon enough and to see if I can get them to stop shipment. too late it go delivered yesterday as they paid (or used my card) for next day/2 day shipping.

    Cabelas is kind enough to give me the shipping address as well as what they ordered (2 pairs of boots and some angler bibs)


    So feeling nice, I just called the police department in Agawam Massachusetts. lady listens for a minute, then tells me that if I want to do anything I need to call my local police first, then they can handle it from there....I tell her these people are .6 miles away from their station....no dice.

    just called the sheriffs office who is not far as well but they are closed, so i think I might call them tomorrow.


    anyways, I'm curious, has anyone here gone to the level needed for the people to get caught? Is it even worth it for me to try? for the local LEO, have you have heard of a incident such as this where you guys follow through, file the police report, call the local police, get them to get a warrant, get into the house to verify the items are there or that they made the order, then bust them? I know the more the time clicks, the fast the items could be given out as presents, moved to another location, the trash taken out with the box/shipping label on it etc etc.

    I'm not going to lose anything, but I want these assholes to lose a lot. their address is 22 cleveland st. Feeding Hills, MA 01030.
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    Years ago a card I had never used got pop'd somehow... No charge to me. Delivered to some guy in MN.

    Called the local pd and filed but never heard of anything happening. Having spent years at UPS never seen anything happen, even when there was known fraud. Cops never did anything I knew of...


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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    I call cabelas in hopes that I caught it soon enough and to see if I can get them to stop shipment. too late it go delivered yesterday as they paid (or used my card) for next day/2 day shipping.

    Cabelas is kind enough to give me the shipping address as well as what they ordered (2 pairs of boots and some angler bibs)



    anyways, I'm curious, has anyone here gone to the level needed for the people to get caught? Is it even worth it for me to try? for the local LEO, have you have heard of a incident such as this where you guys follow through, file the police report, call the local police, get them to get a warrant, get into the house to verify the items are there or that they made the order, then bust them? I know the more the time clicks, the fast the items could be given out as presents, moved to another location, the trash taken out with the box/shipping label on it etc etc.

    I'm not going to lose anything, but I want these assholes to lose a lot. their address is 22 cleveland st. Feeding Hills, MA 01030.
    I am completely amazed that you got the address of where the merchandise was shipped to charged on your card.

    I have tried this in the past wanting to get these card thieves caught and end up getting assholes on the other end that you would think, since they will have the money charged for the items they sold reversed on them and they will be out merchandise would care a little. They didn't care probably as they are just an employee with no vested interest in the company.

    One other time my card # was stolen and used, the item was shipped to my addy in my name. Colon cleansing anyone? (this is the test before they try to buy something big I was told)

    I would take what ever steps to get these fuckers caught but dont go above and beyond unless the local PD or Sheriff will take it on. Maybe they wanted you to call your PD to start the process and then they send to MA make it an interstate based crime, hell I dont know.

    BTW sorry it happened to you to within weeks of mine.

    The gal at my bank told me couple weeks ago it is that time, CC fraud doubles and triples this time of the year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    Years ago a card I had never used got pop'd somehow... No charge to me. Delivered to some guy in MN.

    Called the local pd and filed but never heard of anything happening. Having spent years at UPS never seen anything happen, even when there was known fraud. Cops never did anything I knew of...
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    ................... that is my experience so far, like it is something on the "Bottom" of their priority list and since the victim got reimbursed by the credit card company who cares, retail insurance takes care of the retailer and the criminal they got free shit.
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    You have no loss. Credit card company doesn't care enough or have a big enough loss to prosecute. If you went after them what would your goal be? It sucks but that's the way it is set up by the credit card company.
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    I had the same thing last year. Cabelas, Lady at Cabelas asked if I lived in Fountain. I guess credit company ate the loss.

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    Nice blue STI in the driveway. Sure would be a shame if $500 worth of damage happened to it.

    Too bad there isn't a service that could deliver remote justice. Oh, is that a crime? Well I guess he could down to the PD half a mile away and report it.

    (I hate thieves, if you couldn't tell)

    I hope it works out for you OP. You should be protected through your CC company/bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowtie View Post
    You have no loss. Credit card company doesn't care enough or have a big enough loss to prosecute. If you went after them what would your goal be? It sucks but that's the way it is set up by the credit card company.
    I might be way off on this but I would bet that any loss that your credit card company encores is passed back on to you (or merchants) or used as a tax write off (loss) There by penalizing us all.

    I say shame on them for not going after these dirt bags. I bet they would change there tune if they couldn't write off all that loss at the end of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    So feeling nice, I just called the police department in Agawam Massachusetts. lady listens for a minute, then tells me that if I want to do anything I need to call my local police first, then they can handle it from there....I tell her these people are .6 miles away from their station....no dice.
    Maybe call the county Sheriff's office in Mass.? Perhaps the Mass. state police have an "internet crimes bureau" of some sort?

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    Tis likely it is not even the people at that address but someone nearby. Pick a house you know everyone is gone all day and snag the box before they get home.

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    It seems like this would be super easy to prosecute... Not sure why it wouldn't be worth pursuing.
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