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    Ask away! My question has been answered. I am thinking that I will just do this myself. The only thing I am worried about is the mold. My wife and I are planning on having kids and I dont want that in my house and I want to make sure its clean...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
    Ask away! My question has been answered. I am thinking that I will just do this myself. The only thing I am worried about is the mold. My wife and I are planning on having kids and I dont want that in my house and I want to make sure its clean...
    Mold is in the air you are breathing right now. There are solutions that will treat and then seal the mold. It really is not that scary. Those wacky plaintiffs cost us all a LOT of coin with their crazy lawsuits. There are websites that have good information on treating mold.
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    Thanks for the help guys.
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    Who do I sue?
    There was not a single permit pulled to build my house nor any of the work done through the 60+ years and multiple owners.
    Plus I did my own pre-purchase inspection.
    Seriously... If you have a second bathroom to use while fixing the bad one, it doesn't sound like too hard of a project.

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    I agree that it doesn't sound to difficult, but finding the cash to correct their mistake is the trouble.
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    Ahh... The joys of home ownership.

    If your bathroom project turns out good, I could use a little work around my place. Maybe some siding, about a dozen new windows, some fence repairs.... I'm sure I'm forgetting some other stuff too.

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    Okay, here it the scenario. I have to be light on some details so bear with me.

    This is a multifamily (commercial) property where the water is regularly shut off for various maintenance reasons. Every time the water is turned back on, the faucets have a lot of pressure the first time they are turned on.
    So the water was turned off, when it was turned back on, the nut securing the supply line for the toilet blew up spraying water every where. Another tenant noticed that water was leaking from some where within about 30 minutes and the water was shut back off. The HOA came to the conclusion that the nut on the line blowing up is a maintenance issue and the tenant is responsible for any damage.

    If this was a rubber seal, maybe I could see it, but a metal nut? I liken this to a light bulb popping from a power surge. Is that a comparable situation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Okay, here it the scenario. I have to be light on some details so bear with me.

    This is a multifamily (commercial) property where the water is regularly shut off for various maintenance reasons. Every time the water is turned back on, the faucets have a lot of pressure the first time they are turned on.
    So the water was turned off, when it was turned back on, the nut securing the supply line for the toilet blew up spraying water every where. Another tenant noticed that water was leaking from some where within about 30 minutes and the water was shut back off. The HOA came to the conclusion that the nut on the line blowing up is a maintenance issue and the tenant is responsible for any damage.

    If this was a rubber seal, maybe I could see it, but a metal nut? I liken this to a light bulb popping from a power surge. Is that a comparable situation?
    Sounds like too much pressure to begin with. A regulator should have been installed to regulate the maximum water pressure. Landscapers crank the things up all the time to increase their sprinkler coverage and it can cause real damage. Throw a guage on an exterior sillcock and check, should be @ 50lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Sounds like too much pressure to begin with. A regulator should have been installed to regulate the maximum water pressure. Landscapers crank the things up all the time to increase their sprinkler coverage and it can cause real damage. Throw a guage on an exterior sillcock and check, should be @ 50lbs.
    Code only requires pressure no higher than 80 psi, since about the late 1980s. Prior to that, there was no maximum per code. An air filled line compressed with water pressure creates significant pressure. Heck, there was a young man killed in Steamboat due to a fitting blowing off due to this.
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    Irving,

    I would not call it a maintenance issue on the tenants at all. Surge protection is a fundamental component of plumbing system design. While the system may be old enough that the code did not require it, the persons who turn the water off and on (contractor, property management, etc.) would be responsible for mitigation of pressure surges, which is easily accomplished. I would term it incompetence on the part of the person who is effecting the maintenance. If the HOA controls the water, then "their" system caused the damage to the supply riser. There are sections in the relevant plumbing code that deal with maintenance and repair regardless of whether or not permit required work is being performed.
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