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    The democrats will appoint a single person to replace her. There won't be a "collective committee".

    And the money spent recalling her wasn't wasted. She should've been ousted if for no other reason than the awful things she said during the gun bill hearings. Democrats spent money, too, and what do they have to show for it? Another senator basically thrown out against her will.

    I see this as a great reward to the people that worked hard and contributed to her forced resignation. It's also good for the state. Again...it isn't the best possible outcome but it certainly isn't the worst, either.

    ETA: Besides... Everyone knew her resigning was certain if the signature quota was reached because there was zero chance the dems would risk losing control of the senate. If that's not a victory, but it's a near-certain outcome (for obvious reasons), then why even bother?
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    Quote Originally Posted by merl View Post
    This is the best outcome we could have expected. There is no way the Democrats are going to give up their absolute power in state government until the election in 2014.
    The best outcome we could have expected was a forced recall and another election. This is Hudak falling on her sword (if she didn't outlaw them) at the command of the liberals, so another liberal can take over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeusExMachina View Post
    Having Hudak replaced by a committee of Democrats is no change at best and bad news at worst. Instead of one elected person there will be several appointed individuals that collectively have one vote, but are just as dangerous as they may be immutable until the next election.
    Translated into English, since I'm having to guess at what you actually wrote: still a Democrat in that seat who will vote like a Democrat. Just like there would have been anyway. But with the added factor of, most of the bastards won't go near another gun grab, since they know what's waiting for them if they do.

    The Democrats are scared. See above comments about how they've acted at the petition sites.

    Remember that March Monday at the Capitol? Remember how the Democrats and their witnesses were acting? I do, clearly.

    They had the votes. They knew that they had the votes and the results of that day's proceedings were pretty much fore-ordained. But beyond the arogance was pure fear: I had a brief moment with Bad Check Rhonda outside the House Chamber. She saw my RMGO sticker, and looked down and away like my dogs do when I catch them up on the kitchen counter, and then she scurried away like the vile little rat that she is.

    Ditto outside the Old Supreme Court chamber where the Senate committee was meeting. The pro-gun crowd was cheerful and jovial, even though most of us knew how the day would end. The green-ribbon-wearing people, OTOH, same fear and submissiveness body language. Mark Kelly punked just like Bad Check Rhonda did. Come on, space cowboy: you're a no-shit astronaut and I'm a middle-aged fat guy. Why are you so afraid of me?

    The bastards knew that they would win that day. But they also knew that the war didn't end with Hickenloser's signatures on the bills.

    So you can sit and insist that we haven't won anything and that we'll all lose. Enjoy yourself. The three most arrogant of our enemies had their pride and then their falls. And the rest of us need to just keep it going into the Republican caucuses and primaries. It's those caucuses where this will be won or lost.

    Our guys punked the hell out of those bastards, and they know it. There ain't a Democrat alive who can spin this as a gun-control victory, and they know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeusExMachina View Post
    The best outcome we could have expected was a forced recall and another election.
    If you expected it to come to that you're pretty naive.

    I still don't get where you think they're going to fill her seat with a committee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeusExMachina View Post
    The best outcome we could have expected was a forced recall and another election. This is Hudak falling on her sword (if she didn't outlaw them) at the command of the liberals, so another liberal can take over.
    No, that is the best possible outcome. It was not a reasonable expectation though. They are not going to give up another chance at amendment 66, an update to Colorado obamacare, whatever else comes up

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    Actually, the best possible outcome we can expect is she resigns then the recall petition counts against whoever they replace her with and they get booted. I do not know the law and rules though, it'll come out over the next little bit if the petition is against the seat or the person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey View Post
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    This isn't really a victory for gun owners...
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    they wasted a lot of money as well. She found out that her own don't even like her. maybe she will become a hoarding cat lady and never set foot outside until the day she ends up on the show "heavy", or they make a documentary about her "the ugly fat ass politician that quit"
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    I don't think we're likely to hear too many democrats utter the words "gun control" in the Colorado legislature before Nov of next year.
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    I am going to go out on a limb and say that there was some outside money (Bloomberg?) that cut her a nice check to just resign. Sounds like she took the deal and now the dems can pick who they want to fill her seat.


    The BIG NEWS though, is that some of you are indicating that the recall can count toward her seat and there can still be an election. If this is true, this is HUGE news. I doubt this though and am thinking it is just wishful thinking. Does anyone have confirmation if this is true or not? Would love to see the senate flip so we can get started next year on repealing all these laws from last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckshotbarlow View Post
    This isn't really a victory for gun owners...
    How so? They're scared, and they should be- they saw Morse and Giron (Pueblo isn't that right leaning, last time I checked) get ousted, and Hudak did this in lieu of being ousted, so one would think the next in line to fill her slot will see that such is possible and that they better tread softly. Watch, if someone were to bring up ideas of repealing the gun-control legislation that went into effect this year, the dems in the state legislature might think twice. They probably won't vote how we would ideally want, but they may have a moment of pause, and to me, that's a small victory in and of itself.
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