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most unions go after their one cause. airline pilot unions are very similar. teacher unions are obvious, except there is a good amount of teachers that don't come close to agreeing with "who" the union supports.
I have yet to meet a firefighter who didn't have some of the same values as myself.
I personally do not care for unions. I have been part of one for the last ten years, and they seem to do what they want. Very few times have there been votes on who and what to support. I have been abandoned by IAFF in the past by being told "your group doesn't pay enough dues, so it isn't worth us providing the lawyers." I do not like my dues being spent on a lot of things they choose. They protect the lazy.
When I walked with the recall petition, I encountered two different state patrolmen (retired) in their homes. Both declined to sign. Probably for the same reason that firefighters support libs like Hudak - the government employees know who is better for their wallets.
Everyone is beating around the bush so ill just say it..
The Fire Fighters via their union have sold you out for money. Saying its not me its the union is just passing the buck. They ARE the union.
So you voted for Obama since he is now President? If you were a voting member of the US, that is what you are saying.Originally Posted by lowbeyond
swing and a miss.
but hey, keep making excuses.
its pretty clear the union thinks that money, to be specific, their members money, everyone else's meh - not so much; is more important then gun rights, else why would they give 10k to an anit gun pro-collective bargaining politician?
but if you wish to believe otherwise, well that is a way i suppose. its a great delusion.
Last edited by lowbeyond; 11-27-2013 at 19:31.
I make a distinction between firefighters and their unions just like I do for policemen and teachers and others. Firefighters did a bang-up job the past two summers that we've been plagued with horrendous wildfires. I'm not going to blame them all because their corrupt union bosses have fallen in line with theCommunistliberalObamabots even with the one idiot who was writing letters to the Colorado Springs Gazette in favor of tax increases and virtually threatening to not do his job. Most policemen I knew were against the new gun laws (state troopers are a whole different breed).
IMO, firefighters and policemen are the first victims of their unions just like Italian-Americans were often the first victims of La Cosa Nostra.
Yup, when it comes time to threaten to trim city budgets or raise taxes who gets trimmed first - PD and FD that's who. Why? Because the public will scream the loudest about them and the tax increase will pass, if the city officials said they would trim welfare first they wouldn't hear nearly as much complaining and they wouldn't get their tax increase.
For what it might be worth, even that statist creep FDR was opposed to 'public sector' labor unions...
Look at what's happening in Detroit and other bankrupt municipalities where the Wall Street-Federal Reserve looting syndicate is ordering its DNC errand boys to throw the unions under the bus so the banksters can accelerate their asset-stripping of what's left of the productive economy, with pensioners, savers and taxpayers left holding the bag. All those municipal labor unions who thought their payola-for-votes deal with the Democrats ensured a gold-plated retirement are suddenly realizing to their shock that they were sold a bill of goods.
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