Private party sales question

[Bunny]

If this question has been posted here before, I do apologize, I tried the search feature but did not find. Simple question, its been a while since I bought from private party. Last one I did was in the good ol days where you just show ID and BS in the parking lot. My question is as follows:

1) You find a firearm you would like to buy off Colorado Armslist or something similar, where do you go from there? I know a FFL, but does that mean somewhere like Gander mountain

2) What do they do at the FFL? Is it just a $10.00 background check ( like when you buy from them )?

Easy questions for the knowledgeable fine folks on here.

[Dave]

You have to go to an FFL that is willing to do private transfers, fill out all the same paperwork as if you were buying from their stock and pay the $10 state tax on transfers plus whatever the FFL charges. That can be anywhere from $15-50. Once you pass the BGC you give the money to the seller and take possession of the firearm.

[cysoto]

You have to go to an FFL that is willing to do private transfers, fill out all the same paperwork as if you were buying from their stock and pay the $10 state tax on transfers plus whatever the FFL charges. That can be anywhere from $15-50. Once you pass the BGC you give the money to the seller and take possession of the firearm.

Dave,

The law is very specific as to what an FFL holder can charge to facilitate the sale between private individuals. They can charge $10 for the CBI background check fee and up to another $10 for facilitating the transfer. Charging anything above $20 for person to person transfers is not allowed under the current Colorado law (this is not to say that it is not being done).


C.R.S. § 18-12-112(2)(d) - A licensed gun dealer may charge a fee for services rendered pursuant to this section, which fee shall not exceed ten dollars.

[hurley842002]

Dave,

The law is very specific as to what an FFL holder can charge to facilitate the sale between private individuals. They can charge $10 for the CBI background check fee and up to another $10 for facilitating the transfer. Charging anything above $20 for person to person transfers is not allowed under the current Colorado law (this is not to say that it is not being done).


C.R.S. § 18-12-112(2)(d) - A licensed gun dealer may charge a fee for services rendered pursuant to this section, which fee shall not exceed ten dollars.

Pretty sure the last two FFL 's I did private party transfers with charged $25 + $10 for CBI.

[cysoto]

Pretty sure the last two FFL 's I did private party transfers with charged $25 + $10 for CBI.

Oh, I don't doubt you for a second.

There has been a lot of confusion about how these new laws are written but, this particular one is pretty clear when it says how much an FFL holder can charge for a P-to-P transfer. If these companies are charging more than the stipulated price, they are not following what the law says.

[Busta Prima]

There is a lot of confusion for sure. My friend who is an FFL said he's boycotting them because he thought he could only charge $10, period. I checked here and read where it was $10 for the transfer fee and WHATEVER the FFL wanted for the BCG fee. Now this is a THIRD interpretation. We've got to get this fixed and I don't mean in the next election.

[Brian]

Oh, I don't doubt you for a second.

There has been a lot of confusion about how these new laws are written but, this particular one is pretty clear when it says how much an FFL holder can charge for a P-to-P transfer. If these companies are charging more than the stipulated price, they are not following what the law says.

While I get your point, I would argue the law is anything but clear. Which portion of the $25 that hurley was charged was the "services rendered pursuant to this section", and which part was for the appointment itself, facilities improvement fee, expert labor upcharge, beverage replenishment fund, etc? It's left to the FFL to interpret, and who knows what/if there are any penalties if you get it wrong. Some choose to stick to a hard $10, some choose to ignore or dance around it, some (most?) just decided not to bother and refuse to do FTF transfers.

Ugh, I thought I was over this stupid crap.

(d) A LICENSED GUN DEALER MAY CHARGE A FEE FOR SERVICES
RENDERED PURSUANT TO THIS SECTION, WHICH FEE SHALL NOT EXCEED TEN
DOLLARS.

[Bunny]

Wow! Didn't know it can cost that much just to transfer, I am not trying to complain but that's ridiculous!

[SideShow Bob]

Some places won't let you pass the cash inside their facility, you just need to go out to your car to exchange cash and gun.

[Bunny]

Bad experience?