Any info on the Colorado Rifle Club?

[spleify]

And his point is that the email (which I did not, nor any other members I know, receive) mentions nothing about being qualified to do "quick draw" shooting.

I think the "being civil" comment was directed at the bolded portion of the above quote.

Not exactly, but thanks for trying to explain my position......if we are going to open it up to conversation, I was referring to you. Mark is trying to help out here so I am not really sure why you are arguing with him. I guess I will leave it at, "if you dont like the rules they have in place or you are not pleased with the way they run things you can always cancel your membership''.

And like I mentioned earlier, at least Mark is being gracious enough to offer us an alternative. I'm sure it would just be easier for him to not qualify anyone....you know for free, on his own time and out of the kindness of his own heart.

[DeusExMachina]

Not exactly, but thanks for trying to explain my position......if we are going to open it up to conversation, I was referring to you. Mark is trying to help out here so I am not really sure why you are arguing with him. I guess I will leave it at, "if you dont like the rules they have in place or you are not pleased with the way they run things you can always cancel your membership''.

And like I mentioned earlier, at least Mark is being gracious enough to offer us an alternative. I'm sure it would just be easier for him to not qualify anyone....you know for free, on his own time and out of the kindness of his own heart.

Which is where the problem lies. He shouldn't have to do that, because it shouldn't be a requirement.

The only comment that wasn't civil was the insult that the only way to get my attention would be if the notice offered free ammo.

I think it's fair to disagree that an unnecessary rule, that wasn't covered in orientation and is only mentioned in one spot with vague wording and has only been posted at the range in the last several months, is suddenly resolved because one person has mentioned it a handful of times on an Internet forum (that a small percentage of CRC members visit) that they can be exempted from the rule. It's not even reasonable to exclude the non-COAR member base from this ability under threat of club expulsion.

One or several things need to happen:

1) Remove the rule from the book.

OR

2) Allow more than one single person to permit members to "quick draw".

AND

3) Inform the entire member base that this is a rule and that many many people are breaking it, but can be exempted and how.

AND

4) Organize specific times/days that large groups of members may attend to become exempted from this rule.

The absolute easiest thing would be for #1 to happen, then no one needs to bother Mark (without the offer of free ammo).

How do you know that this whole thing is a problem? I've been shooting in berms next to ROs of action shooting sports, talked with them, even shot with them a bit and they never ever hinted at being aware of what we were all doing was against club rules. This was well before Mark so graciously offered to approve the use of the berms for which they were intended, so none of us were in the very elite 5.

[MarkCO]

Just FYI, there are a few folks that have been referred directly to me by BOD members when asked about the rules. For whatever reason, they decided not to "advertise it".

For the vast majority of shooters, you are right, there should not have to be a requirement. However, the "problems" at the club have increased in the last few years due to many factors. The worst I am aware of was a kid and his friends of a long time member. That aside, some control shows that the club has a policy, and exercises some due diligence, without which, one accident and the entire range is shut down. I, in no way, want to prevent the BOD from exercising some control in order to maintain the use of the club for us, as members.

As for my ammo comment, that was sarcastic, not a personal attack in any way.

[hatidua]

Whoulda' thunk a simple question about CRC could get so entertaining in such a short period of time?!

[spleify]

Whoulda' thunk a simple question about CRC could get so entertaining in such a short period of time?!

..right??!!??!

[MarkCO]

Whoulda' thunk a simple question about CRC could get so entertaining in such a short period of time?!

You have a rum and coke to go with the popcorn?

[hatidua]

You have a rum and coke to go with the popcorn?

[MarkCO]

Be there in 5!

[RANGERRON72]

A great club.........high power range is the best in the West. Deserted during weekdays. Be safe

[MarkCO]

IF the weather is nice, I plan to do a 3Gun clinic at CRC on January 4th. I can take a group of COAR15 members who want to get the East Range Clearance out of the way if there is a small group that can agree on a time.