Nelson Mandella has died

[RMAC757]

So HBAR, what does that have to do with Apartheid ?

[roberth]

From what I can tell SA isn't a communist nation. It's a long the same lines as Vietnam. Ho Chi Minh wanted help from Truman but he never responded so he turned to the Soviets for help. Imagine how that would've turned out if we would of intervened earlier. This board is full of hypocrites. Mandela is no better than the people he replaced ? YHGTBSM.

I didn't say South Africa was communist, I said the ANC the organization that Mandela led was communist.

MOD EDIT, NO PERSONAL ATTACKS

[RMAC757]

the crime rate soared since then? we all know you get all offensive and defensive when anyone talks about anything to do with this type of topic. but it really isnt becoming.

What topic is that HBAR....? And I'm not sure I care if it's "becoming". Mandela never sought retribution against anyone after he was elected. He even brought about Truth and Reconciliation so the country could start healing and certain criminals were given a get out of jail free card. Extreme poverty and lack of opportunity creates a monster. You don't need to be a sociologist to know that. It would of happened anywhere, in any country.

[brianakell]

Interesting the story you get from people who lived, or still live there. Mandela being gone is a good thing. And yeah, serious issues blacks/whites for sure.

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http://news.yahoo.com/video/abc-news...220000361.html

If you're white in South Africa I'd be getting out ASAP. He was the major reason blacks in that that country weren't avenging apartheid with genocide.

There has been a quiet genocide going on for years. And the police do nothing.

But I agree, folks have a reason to be concerned, and not just "whites." Look at Zimbabwe--the country can't feed itself after forcing whites out (and killing the ones who wouldn't leave).

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What topic is that HBAR....? And I'm not sure I care if it's "becoming". Mandela never sought retribution against anyone after he was elected. He even brought about Truth and Reconciliation so the country could start healing and certain criminals were given a get out of jail free card. Extreme poverty and lack of opportunity creates a monster. You don't need to be a sociologist to know that. It would of happened anywhere, in any country.

http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html

Since 1994, the end of the so-called Apartheid, white people, especially white farmers, have been subject to extremely brutal and racist murders. About 50 people on average are murdered in South-Africa per day, of which at least 20 of them are whites(95+ % black on white murder rate).

This is a genocide.

And Apartheid was evil. But it was no genocide.

[sniper7]

I know very little of the man, just what the media presents and a few posters I have seen here and there along the likes of several liberals and their causes which I dislike.

[streetglideok]

Another term with Obama, and that all will be the reality in this country.

[Great-Kazoo]

My best African American friend was a Recce and had to leave South Africa when Apartheid ended.
His account of Mandella and South African History is much in line with this article.

Good riddance to Mandella.

Guys i know in Joberg , Pretoria and cape town NEVER went out unarmed. When my nephew and neice were down there they never went out UNARMED. Sun goes down, whites are in. Now the more "progressive" SA's like their nightlife. HOWEVER as with Detroit, Philly, Chi-town, BMoe and other "urban areas" If you're white, stay in at night.

[Bailey Guns]

Regardless of the history of South Africa, I won't miss Mandela at all. I doubt there are many angels singing over him. Unfortunately, someone worse is probably in line behind him.